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Just some musings on a cold winter’s day

by on February 7, 2013
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While most of the work is still ahead of us, once in a while it’s nice to report on progress too. Here’s some good news for a change!

I sometimes like to poke a little fun at ‘the awakened’ in the ‘Alternative Media’. This is not the ‘arrogance of the initiate’. I find myself in the blessed realization of knowing very little. It is just my limited way of promoting ever more vigilance.

Awakening is an ongoing process. The reality that we are awakening to is unlimited and so is our capacity to awaken to it. The depravity of the enemy and the slyness of his lies are boundless too.

It is understandable that money is one of the last thresholds to be taken by the many. But there certainly is an awakening going on. Sometimes, when I’m in one of my more sour moods, I don’t see it, but clearheaded observation makes it difficult to deny. The fact that Austrian Economics has had such a major impact in just a few years actually shows how desperately people are looking for answers. The voices of the Usury Free movement were and are still few compared to the lucrative business of promoting Usury and Deflation, but over the last year something has changed. Usury is breaking through. The efforts of those unsung heroes who have been watching our back for decades, long before the Internet arrived, are slowly but surely coming together and having their impact on the mass consciousness. People like John Turmel, Tommy Kennedy, Margrit Kennedy, Helmut Creutz, Hank Monrobey, Mike Montagne and ‘classical’ populists like Zarlenga, Still and Name789 (although he’ll not enjoy being in this list), the Social Crediters and the real Catholics out there fighting Usury,  and many others have been scorned by those they were protecting, but they are now finally finding some recognition for their efforts. Before them there were those struggling. They too have their reward, but it did not come from their brethren.

Clearly it’s far too early to claim victory. In fact: the worst battles are still ahead. Here’s a really funny video by Mark Dice offering to give a 1 ounce Gold coin away to anyone who can guess its worth plus or minus 25%. It shows Americans don’t know and don’t care about Gold. They don’t have any either, meaning the coming transition will leave them empty handed, as always.
Be sure not to miss his clincher at the end (at 5:00)!

People not knowing about Gold are sure to be oblivious to anything to do with with the mechanics of money in general.
We’ll suffer great defeats and humiliation still. But Anti-Usury activism, Usury Free living is becoming a force to be reckoned with and that in itself is just fantastic to witness.

But whereas the struggle against Usury is only beginning, a major victory against the enemy is the whole Gun issue. Here’s a great commentary by Mike Adams.

To be honest, I found the whole gun debate rather exasperating. Jones backstabbing the movement at Piers Morgan’s. The NRA saying Sandy Hook proves we need more guns at schools. Clearly we don’t need more guns at schools. We need more teachers, more money, more real attention for children. Less sexting, less ‘sex education’, less dumbing down, less psychotropic and illicit drugs. If we want to avoid another Sandy Hook we must close down the CIA and shut the borders to Mossad and other Israeli operatives.
Obviously the NRA was taken over a very long time ago and now only exists to give gun owners a bad name.

But the Americans did not allow themselves to be confused. Adams is right to say that they see this as a great confirmation of valid distrust of Government. The Government IS coming for their guns. And they need their guns, not even so much to keep the crackheads out of their backyard (most Americans still feel safe), but to keep FEMA and their goons under control. I have not been following the gun issue too much, but Mike is saying there are real concerns in Washington that the militias would get small teams of dedicated patriots out there to execute the whores doing Satan’s bidding. While a fear of God in Washington would even be more appropriate, it’s good to know God has some tough guys of His own to deliver the message if needs be.

The gun-grabbing agenda, which was in trouble anyway, John Todd was already saying in the seventies the Americans would lose their guns shortly and that that was a key step for the New World Order, has been set back indefinitely. The beauty is that it will become exponentially more risky for the CIA and Mossad to come up with new bloodbaths: if anything Sandy Hook has programmed the Americans to think ‘bloodbath = gun-grabbing’.

An important aspect of this issue is that the ‘liberals’, the Cultural Marxists promoting sexism, feminism, pornography, the homosexual/transgender agenda, abortion, the breakdown of the family, the neglect of children, the denial of personal responsibility and freedom, legalism, materialism and all the other depravities that the modern age is famous for have suffered an uncanny moral defeat. Slowly but surely they are losing their venomous grip on the ‘humanitarian’ agenda.

Conclusion
Nothing to conclude! I’m enjoying life and am happy to report Victory is inevitable, albeit far off.

Thank you for visiting Real Currencies and may the One bless you and yours!

31 Comments
  1. Canadian constitutional lawyer, Rocco Galati, on behalf of Canadians William Krehm, and Ann Emmett, and COMER (Committee for Monetary and Economic Reform) filed an action in Federal Court, to restore the use of the Bank of Canada to its original purpose, by exercising its public statutory duty and responsibility.
    transcript of the proceedings that took place at the Federal Judicial Centre on December 5, 2012.

    http://www.comer.org/

    http://www.comer.org/archives/2013/COMER_March2013.pdf

    • interesting. Thank you name789. Take it easy on the eggs and may the Christ be with you this Easter, and, of course, beyond!

      • what old man needs on this pagan fertility lond week-end is stinking wet pussy in shapely package

        • well, that is readily available these days name789! Pussy is one of the cheaper commodities around.

  2. Is any of you a chemist ?
    How do you incinerate a differential ? the housing of it, to be precise, while leaving the gears inside it undamaged ?

    recently I recycled (through the air) some garbage and a few tires; in the process the housing of the differential ignited, and in 50 minutes burned to dust from one end to the other, but the gears were not demaged, only covered with white ash, aluminium oxide I reckon (I thought thermite combustion needed more then a low heat plastic fire)

  3. REN permalink

    There are reasons to be positive. The internet is allowing “discussion” analogous to pamphleteering of old. During the American Colonial period, citizens would debate in beer halls, and pass out pamphlets describing their positions. People were informed then, as they read and energetically debated each other. American’s also had recent monetary knowledge, such as Tobacco money from Virginia, Mass Bills, and the various banking acts. This crucible of money knowledge was put on fast forward, as civilized American colonials grappled with predatory British behavior. For example, Britain extracted specie from the Colonies, and hence colonials had to use paper or tobacco, and subsequently learned money was an abstract accounting identity, not a thing. Britain became predatory largely after formation of the Bank of England in 1694, when private debt money hosted society and government; usury debts infected Britain’s body politic.

    In modern times control of the media, purchased by a river of usury, has enabled mind control confusion to descend over the minds of sheeple. The Bank of England method, with credit forming banks and usury, allows formation of usury finance capital pools; said pools in turn are used to bribe or purchase favors and to establish parasitical control. Establishment of the parasite onto the body was present at the founding of the U.S. Jefferson didn’t even figure it out till after his second term, given his lament – paraphrased, “If I could have one do-over, I wouldn’t allow Government to borrow money.” This is seen in the Louisiana Purchase, which was done with Gold, and hence the Government did not have to go further into debt to the First Bank (a private bank). Once a country is in debt, it cannot easily shake the parasite. Biddle showed the parasite behavior during Jackson’s battles with the second bank. (Biddle tried to collapse the “credit” money supply by not making new loans, and accelerating recall of existing loans.) Don’t take this as to mean I’m pro gold, far from it. Real money has no associated liability. Mutual credit is also money as the liabilities cancel out in the system. Gold can also have no liabilities and become money, but that never happens.

    Jackson’s fight with private money powers was over who has control, the State or Private Oligarchical entities i.e. banking/merchant cabal. There was never a discussion about usury and its effects.

    With regards to the usury aspect of money, our Colonial forefathers were not that advanced. If the “holders” of money make loans to those who have none, then the usury sorts real money (yes, even Gold) toward creditors. If the money system is based on bank credit, then usury sorts wealth toward creditors along with the inevitable depression and repossession grabbing phase.

    Another reason to be positive is that computer modeling is exploding economic myths, purchased a great expense by mind control parasitical usury finance. The cloud of confusion is slowly lifting.

    With regards to continuation of information revolution: we’ve recently developed a dual core chip. It has an arm processor and a standard microcontroller, along with a microwave transducer and high speed heterojunction transistors. The idea is to allow cars to crowd on the highway as they exchange information with each other, maintaining tight distances. Yes, this is coming to you in near future. Think of it as miniature wifi high speed communications. It would be a simple matter to use these soon to come inexpensive chips to make a private radio based internet, where data jumps from cell to cell. We could even use frequency hopping and smart antenna (multi path) to make it impossible to crack.

    Good luck trying to stop the information revolution. Even Chinese authorities, who censor by using filtering software on their Cisco routers, could be thwarted. We are talking to each other and learning in a crucible of debate, much like our ancestors.

    • There is no “information revolution”. Between 1830 and 1840 the people were a lot more informed than they are today. The problem was never the lack of information –information has always been plenty and available for the willingness to read it– rather the lack of interest.

      I ask the same question I asked seven years ago: what have the internet, the millions of DVDs, videos, books accomplished ? (absolutely nothing)

      • REN permalink

        The Asian Currency Crises; Prime Minister of Malaysia seeks out information (including Still’s Money Masters).

        “The unsung western heroes include James Gibb-Stuart author of the Money Bomb and Hidden Menace; Kenneth C. Palmerton Vice Chairman of CCMJ – the Christian Council for Monetary Justice and an English convert Rupert Mohammed Rafiq an English banker, and other members of the Forum For Stable Currencies, which meets in the House of Lords every month. By following their good advice and the courage of his own convictions Dr. Mahathir has been able to demonstrate what many politicians know but, because of their cowardice in the face of the enemy, have failed to implement in the interest of the ones who voted for them ”

        http://www.islamicparty.com/commonsense/leader30.htm

        Iceland is now engaged in a review of money systems, in particular after the IMF white paper. Our whore western media does not report on things inimical to debt spreading usury systems, as they are bought out. However, the internet is not bought out, only certain “sites.” The media became whores mostly after WW1 because the Balfour doctrine almost didn’t pass, and in particular when the Aldrige plan got bad press. Even before then by 1850, the seeds were planted with Fillmore, our first banking president. How is it Iceland went against all the “austerity” expert advice, even in the face of being threatened with “terrorist” status by Britain? Iceland was/is getting contrary (and mostly proper) advice by other thinkers, who read and write “all of those books.”

        http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2012/wp12202.pdf

        Putin formed the BRICS in response to Yeltsin’s Oligarchs, which in turn were empowered by private banker funded “Harvard Boys.” As we speak, the dollar is being circumvented, and a new structure is being put into place. The acquisition of Gold by the BRICS are so there will be a “basket” of currencies for international trade. Yeltsin has been listening to Hudson and other MMT thinkers. The BRIC countries are using public banks, and quietly doing battle with Western Private Banks. Public banks can recycle usury by respending, as usury pops up elsewhere in their public banking system. Also, Public Banks can forgive loans, thus changing the nature of credit money by loosing “credits” liability associations. And yes, Public Banks are fascist, in the vein of Mussolini.

        Slowly people are being awakened, but mostly it is those in leadership that have the power to implement change. Argentina has slipped backward, so knoweldge does not always trump usury private money power.

        There were less distractions, and more time for thought and real debate before the modern era.

        Even so, our forefathers were completely bamboozled by the usury question. In 1850 private debts were accumulating and growing due to Northern banking establishments . Northern usurers needed to spread their debt contracts to the mostly debt free population of the South. The south was debt free as they had been paying the extra usury dollar with Gold that erupted from the ground. Hoskins documents commodity prices, debt cycles, and bank consolidations of this era: http://www.amazon.com/War-Cycles-Richard-Kelly-Hoskins/dp/1881867013

        The answer as usual is somewhere in between: The information revolution has allowed knowledge to filter into the conscious of many, including leaders. The results are spotty, but evident if we care to look.

        People are casting about for solutions to all the big megatrends, and they are finding the money problem to be a locus of all. I expect all of the books, dvd’s, and internet videos, to become “more” important as time goes on. The usury private banks are at the end of their historical run. The sheeple will never get it, but plenty of sheep dogs will.

        • >>>our forefathers
          How little do you know; please read what was wide-spread knowledge 150-200 years ago:
          http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/uregina/speeches.html

          http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/gouge/gouge_index.html

          http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/uregina/antibank.html

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          the sheeple continue falling victims to charlatans like Bill Still and Ellen Brown, and nothing can stear them from that

          In 2001 the US government, in broad day-light, exterminated 1700 people in New York….. nothing the books and DVDs accomplished
          Homeland security is doing just fine….
          Airport molestation is increasing, and is spreading to cars, boats and trains
          The war-machine is rolling…..
          The central government is growing…..

          20 years ago, to pre-empt a real reform –to prevent the resentment caused by the Geoffry Sack’s shock treatment from accomplishing something–, Putin quickly jumped in to make sure Pamyat or Zhirinovsky don’t cause some real problems

          Mr. Mahatir (and people in Asia) is a hard-money man, he is not falling for monetary reform ideas rampant among sheeple

          Yes, the city state of Iceland is doing something, and that has how much effect on the rest ? (How much effect the activities of the Bailiwick of Guernsey had on the rest?)

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          report back when the concept of nation state, small state, elimination of international organizations, are on the rise; when the people close their bank-accounts and live without credit and debit cards….. (if it were to happen, it wouldn’t be as a result of book-peddlers’ activity);

          • And how do you view the issue that all the Gold is owned by the same people that run the printing press?

            • Are you member of a university library? can you get interlibrary loan ?
              I want get an e-text which is locked behind member-card or interlibrary

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              I view it the same as everything else: part of the sad state of affairs, which the book-peddlers do not change

              • no, sorry! I have no academic credentials whatsoever…..I’m sure you could tell🙂

                • Of course, when it comes to such endeavours, can only count on myself, reformist groupies are only good a hand-job

                  [quote 1834]
                  “Is not Pennsylvania” you ask, “now deliberating whether she will or not, send an agent to Europe to borrow money ? And is not the new bank too, proposed to be established in New York, to be created on foreign capital ?” This I admit is too true, and it makes me blush while I read it. The deliberation in Pennsylvania, has, it seems, been put a stop to by a Jew, who, it is said, has “nobly stepped forward and saved the State,” for which, the democrats, at the late Jefferson celebration in this city, drank to his health, and said, “well done, thou good and faithful servant, may health and plenty always attend thee.” Now I do not, by any means, wish to take one single particle from the merit of this gentleman in saving the state! On the contrary, I say, that our deepest gratitude, and unfeigned regard ought to be shown to any man who saves the state. But what a striking effect it ought to have upon us, as to the consequences of running into debt; how forcibly it ought to call to our minds the words of Franklin: “independence, whether with little or much is good fortune.” What a wretched, miserable, and degrading thing it is for us to reflect upon, that our state is “flowing with milk and honey,” but, that it is mortgaged to the noblemen of England, and hampered in such a manner, that it would have been lost forever, had it not been for this worthy Jew! who “NOBLY STEPPED FORWARD AND SAVED THE STATE !

                  [/quote]

              • But why promote ‘hard’ money if it is owned by the enemy?

                • I don’t promote hard-money, I promote stable money; money issued by government alone (similar to what the 19th century greenback party held: gold, silver and treasury note); money that buys as much today as it did when I earned it in 1875

            • Thomas Brothers, “The Senator unmasked” (1834)

              http://toroprod.library.utoronto.ca/uhtbin/cgisirsi/?ps=kXvhj49R5A/ROBARTS/307740048/123

              http://link.library.utoronto.ca/eir/EIRdetail.cfm?Resources__ID=674325&T=F

          • Name, you’re a blow-hard and your endless diatribes against the conspiracists are boring, albeit to the point.
            But your work is uncanny, and although I have not the time, nor the energy to read it all, the US is only a small part of the world, and US banking only a small part of monetary history and theory, I would die to know even half of what you must have forgotten.

            For those who haven’t: visit yamaguchy.com

            • I am boring, yet you, the charlatan’s apprentice, send money for regurgitated falsehoods (to feed your ignorance and to keep the sheeple, sheeple)

              I am the true memehunter on this forum (and any other) not your partner and you
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              Read this very carefully, then explain what paragraph 2 means

              An Act to authorize the issue of United States notes, and for the redemption or funding thereof, and for funding the floating debt of the United States.

              Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States in Congress assembled, That the Secretary of the Treasury is hereby authorized to issue on the credit of the United States one hundred and fifty millions of dollars of United States notes, not bearing interest, payable to bearer, at the Treasury of the United States, and of such denominations as he may deem expedient, not less than five dollars each.

              Provided, however, that fifty millions of said notes shall be in lieu of the demand Treasury notes authorized to be issued by the act of July 17th, 1861, which said demand notes shall be taken up as rapidly as practicable, and the notes herein provided for substituted for them ;  and

              Provided further, That the amount of the two kinds of notes together shall at no time exceed the sum of one hundred and fifty millions of dollars ;  and such notes herein authorized shall be receivable in payment of all taxes, internal duties, excises, debts and demands of every kind due to the United States, except duties on imports, and of all claims and demands against the United States of every kind whatsoever, except for interest upon bonds and notes, which shall be paid in coin ;  and shall also be lawful money and a legal tender in payment of all debts, public and private, within the United States, except duties on imports and interest as aforesaid ;  and any holder of said United States notes depositing any sum not less than fifty dollars, or some multiple of fifty dollars, with the Treasurer of the United States, or either of the Assistant Treasurers, shall receive in exchange therefor duplicate certificates of deposit, one of which may be transmitted to the Secretary of the Treasury, who shall thereupon issue to the holder an equal amount of bonds of the United States, coupon or registered, as may by said holder be desired, bearing interest at the rate of six per centum per annum, payable semi-annually, and redeemable at the pleasure of the United States after five years, and payable twenty years from the date thereof ;  and such United States notes shall be received the same as coin, at their par value, in payment for any loans that may be hereafter sold or negotiated by the Secretary of the Treasury, and may be re-issued from time to time as the exigencies of the public interests shall require.

              § 2.  And be it further enacted, That to enable the Secretary of the Treasury to fund the Treasury notes and floating debt of the United States, he is hereby authorized to issue on the credit of the United States coupon bonds or registered bonds, to an amount not exceeding five hundred million dollars, and redeemable at the pleasure of the United States after five years, and payable twenty years from date, and bearing interest at the rate of six per centum per annum, payable semi-annually ;  and the bonds herein authorized shall be of such denomination, not less than fifty dollars, as may be determined upon by the Secretary of the Treasury ;  and the Secretary of the Treasury may dispose of such bonds at any time at the market value thereof, for lawful money, the coin of the United States, or for any of the Treasury notes that have been, or may hereafter be, issued under any former act of Congress, or for the United States notes that may be issued under the provisions of this act ;  and all stocks, bonds, and other securities of the United States held by individuals, corporations or associations within the United States, shall be exempt from taxation by or under State authority.

              § 3.  And be it further enacted, That the United States notes and the coupon or registered bonds authorized by this act shall be in such form as the Secretary of the Treasury may direct, and shall bear the written or engraved signatures of the Treasurer of the United States and the Register of the Treasury, and also, as evidence of lawful issue, the imprint of a copy of the seal of the Treasury Department, which imprint shall be made under the direction of the Secretary, after the said notes or bonds shall be received from the engravers, and before they are issued ;  or the said notes and bonds shall be signed by the Treasurer of the United States, or for the Treasurer, by such persons as may be specially appointed by the Secretary of the Treasury for that purpose, and shall be countersigned by the Register of the Treasury, or for the Register, by such persons as the Secretary of the Treasury may appoint for that purpose ;  and all the provisions of the act entitled ‘An act to authorize the issue of Treasury notes, approved the twenty-third day of December, eighteen hundred and fifty-seven, so far as they can be applied to this act, and not inconsistent therewith, are hereby revived and re-enacted ;  and the sum of three hundred thousand dollars is hereby appropriated, out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, to enable the Secretary of the Treasury to carry this act into effect.

              § 4.  And be it further enacted, That the Secretary of the Treasury may receive from any person or persons, or any corporation, United State notes on deposit for not less than thirty days, in sums of not less than one hundred dollars, with any of the assistant treasurers or designates depositaries of the United States authorized by the Secretary of the Treasury to receive them, who shall issue therefor certificates of deposit, made in such form as the Secretary of the Treasury shall prescribe, and said certificates of deposit shall bear interest at the rate of five per centum per annum ;  and any amount of United States notes so deposited may be withdrawn from deposit at anytime after ten days’ notice on the return of said certificates ;  Provided, that the interest on all such deposits shall cease and determine at the pleasure of the Secretary of the Treasury ;  and Provided further, that the aggregate of such deposits shall at no time exceed the amount of twenty-five million dollars.

              § 5.  And be it further enacted, That all duties on imported goods which shall be paid in coin, or in notes payable on demand, heretofor authorized, to be received and by law receivable in payment of public dues, and the coin so paid shall be set apart as a special fund, and applies as follows :—

              First—To the payment in coin of the interest on the bonds and notes of the United States.

              Second—To the purchase or payment of one per centum of the entire debt of the United States, to be made within each fiscal year after the firs day of July, 1862 ;  which is to be set apart as a sinking fund ;  and this interest of which shall in like manner be applied to the purchase or payment of the public debt, as the Secretary of the Treasury shall from time to time direct.

              Third—The residue thereof to be paid into the Treasury of the Unite States.

              § 6.  And be it further enacted, That if any person or persons shall falsely make, forge, counterfeit, or alter or cause or procure to be falsely made forged, counterfeited or altered, or shall willingly aid or assist in falsely making, forging, counterfeiting or altering any note, bond, coupon, or other security issued under the authority of this act, or heretofore issued under acts to authorize the issue of Treasury notes or bonds ;  or shall pass, utter, publish or sell, or attempt to pass, utter, publish or sell, or bring into the United States from any foreign place, with the intent to pass, utter, publish or sell, or shall have or keep in possession, or conceal, with intent to utter, publish or sell, any such false, forged, counterfeited, or altered note, bond, coupon, or other security, with intent to defraud any body, corporate or politic, or any other person or persons whatsoever, every person so offending shall be deemed guilty of felony, and shall, on conviction thereof, be punished by fine not exceeding $5,000, and by imprisonment and confinement to hard labor not exceeding 15 years, according to the aggravation of the offence.

              § 7.  And be it further enacted, That if any person, having the custody of any plate or plates, from which any notes, bonds, coupons, or other securities mentioned in this act, or any part thereof, shall have been printed, or which shall have been prepared for the purpose of printing any such notes, bonds, coupons, or other securities, or any part thereof, shall use such plate or plates, or knowingly permit the same to be used for the purpose of printing any notes, bonds, coupons, or other securities, or any part thereof, except such as shall be printed for the use of the United States, by order of the proper officer thereof ;  or if any person shall engrave, or cause or procure to be engraved, or shall aid in engraving any plate or plates in the likeness or similitude of any plate or plates designed for the printing of such notes, bonds, coupons, or other securities, or any part thereof ;  or shall vend or sell any such plate or plates, or shall bring into the United States, from any foreign place, any such plate or plates, with any other intent, or for any purpose, in either case, than that such plate or plates shall be used for printing of such notes, bonds, coupons, or other securities, or some part or parts thereof, for the use of the United States ;  or shall have in his custody or possession any metallic plate, engraved after the similitude of any plate from which any such notes, bonds, coupons, or other securities, or any part or parts thereof, shall have been printed, with intent to use such plate or plates, or cause or suffer the same to be used, in forging or counterfeiting any such notes, bonds, coupons, or other securities, or any part or parts thereof, issued as aforesaid ;  or shall have in his custody or possession, any blank note or notes, bond or bonds, coupon or coupons, or other security or securities, engraved and printed after the similitude of any notes, bonds, coupons, or other securities, issued as aforesaid, with intent to sell or otherwise use the same ;  or if any person shall print, photograph, or in any other manner execute or cause to be printed, photographed, or in any manner executed, or shall aid in printing, photographing or executing any engraving, photograph or other print, or impression, in the likeness or similitude of any such notes, bonds, coupons, or other securities, or any part or parts thereof, except for the use of the United
              States and by order of the proper officer thereof, or shall vend or sell any such engraving, photograph, print, or other impression, except to the United States, or shall bring into the United States from any foreign place any such engraving, photograph, print, or other impression for the purpose of vending or selling the same, except by the direction of some proper officer of the United States ;  or shall have in his custody or possession any paper adapted to the making of such notes, bonds, coupons, or other securities, and similar to the paper upon which any such notes, bonds, coupons, or other securities shall have been used, with intent to use such paper, or cause or suffer the same to be used in forging or counterfeiting any of the notes, bonds, coupons, or other securities, issued a aforesaid, every such person so offending shall be deemed guilty of felony, and shall, on conviction thereof, be punished by fine not exceeding five thousand dollars, and by imprisonment and confinement to hard labor not exceeding fifteen years, according to the aggravation of the offence.
              Approved February 25, 1862.A. LINCOLN.”
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              http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/spaulding/sherman63.html

              An Act to provide a national Currency, secured by a Pledge of United States Stocks, and to provide for the Circulation and Redemption thereof. –Approved, February 25, 1863.

              “Sec. 41. And be it further enacted, That every such association shall at all times have on hand, in lawful money of the United States, an amount equal to at least twenty-five per centum of the aggregate amount of its outstanding notes of circulation and its deposits; and whenever the amount of its outstanding notes of circulation and its deposits shall exceed the above-named proportion for the space of twelve days, or whenever such lawful money of the United States shall at any time fall below the amount of twenty-five per centum of its circulation and deposits, such association shall not increase its liabilities by making any new loans or discounts otherwise than by discounting or purchasing bills of exchange, payable at sight, nor make any dividend of its profits, until the required proportion between the aggregate amount of its outstanding notes of circulation and its deposits and lawful money of the United States shall be restored: Provided, however, That clearing-house certificates, representing specie or lawful money specially deposited for the purpose of any clearing-house association, shall be deemed to be lawful money in the possession of any association belonging to such clearing-house holding and owning such certificates, and considered to be a part of the lawful money which such association is required to have, under the foregoing provisions of this section: Provided, further, That any balance due to any association organized under this act in other places from any association in the cities of Boston, Providence, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Chicago, St. Louis, or New Orleans, in good credit, subject to be drawn for at sight, and available to redeem their circulating notes and deposits, may be deemed to be a part of the lawful money which such association in other places than the cities of Boston, Providence, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Chicago, St. Louis, and New Orleans, are required to have by the foregoing provisions of this section, to the extent of three fifths of the said amount of twenty-five per centum required. And it shall be competent for the comptroller of the currency to notify any such association whose lawful money reserve, as aforesaid, shall fall below said proportion of twenty-five per centum, to make good such reserve; and if such association shall fail for thirty days thereafter so to make good its reserve of lawful money of the United States, the comptroller may, with the concurrence of the Secretary of the Treasury, appoint a receiver to wind up the business of such association, as provided in this act.”

              If you were able to understand Sec 41, you kow by now that the National banks were required to keep Greenbacks as reserve based on which they issued their own notes (how interest-free were those greenbacks?)

              I already uploaded the text of the act of feb 25, 1862, ye need to work up the courage to read it (700pages); then read the record of the two acts following the war (500pages); I can’t do more, I can’t tie you to a chair and motivate you with a shovel to read facts, you prefer the charlatans’ fiction

              • To circulate 150 million in interest-free bills not smaller than 5 dollars?

                I don’t get it. What’s the point?

                “If you were able to understand Sec 41, you kow by now that the National banks were required to keep Greenbacks as reserve based on which they issued their own notes”
                Yes, I understand, although it’s a tough read. It’s legalese and our great-grandparents had a far superior command of the language anyway.

                But what does this say or prove? (I’m wide open to answers, not being cocky).

                • Fine, I will speak s l o w l y; I guess you are to lazy to do the thinking for yourself

                  Not issuing small paper notes was supposed to keep coin circulation alive (in those days a dollar was a 10-hour day’s pay); that is why prior to 1862 Treasury notes were usually not less than $100.00

                  Prior to 1862 Treasury notes paid interest directly; the U.S. notes paid interest in-directly; the U.S. notes were evidences of debt (and promised to pay coin)

                  What sec 41 means is that the new National banks had to keep greenbacks in their vaults, 25% of what their note circulation was; in 1913 there were still 150million greenbacks outstanding (in reality sitting in the vaults of National banks) and the Treasury kept 150million in gold in reserve for the purpose of redeeming those greenbacks; and eventually those greenbacks were redeemed

                  The exact same people who gave you the legal-tender clause, also gave you the national currency bank act; could it be that they had other motives ? (no conspiracist book-peddler ever accused Senator John Sherman or Representative Sam Hooper of being friends of the people or opponents of banks, yet they were the ones who gave the nation the best currency it ever had…… why? because greenbacks were a means to an end)

                  Don’t be afraid, work up the courage and read; the fathers of greenbacks tell you frankly what the real purposes were:—

                  Thus are secured all the benefits of the old United States Bank without many of those objectionable features which aroused opposition. It will be as if the Bank of the United States had been divided into many parts, and each part endowed with the life, motion, and similitude of the whole, revolving in its own orbit, managed by its own board of directors, attending to the business interests of its own locality; and yet to the bills of each will be given as wide a circulation and as fixed a value as were ever given to those of the Bank of the United States in its palmiest days. It is not to be supposed that variation in the rates of exchange will entirely disappear. Specie itself yields to the law of demand and supply, and fluctuates in value with the continual changes of the balance of trade. But this currency will approach as near uniformity in its value as possible. These institutions all originate among the people in their own localities, and are not created by the Government. The Government simply authorizes the investment of capital in the loans, and the use of the bonds representing the loans as the basis of a sound circulation.”

                  There is but one other mode proposed to check this increase, but I would not assent to it because it is too harsh. Under the provisions of our laws, United States notes are made a legal tender in the payment of debts. We might, if we chose, except banks from the operation of that provision; but I believe that would be harsh and unjust, because, as we require them to receive these notes in payment of debts due to them, it would be very unjust for us to require them to pay out anything else but United States notes for their own notes, so that the issue of United States notes by the Government and making them a legal tender, both of which measures were clearly necessary, have been the encouragement and basis of an inflated bank circulation in the country, and there is no way to check this except by uniting the interest of the Government and the banks and the people together by one uniform, common system.

                  ==============
                  There is a new math afoot in America, according to this new calculating, if you are sitting at home on welfare, you are not unemployed; similarly, if one only reads section one of the greenback act the greenbacks are interest-free, but the act had another section, so can it be considered interest-free?

                  But the Feb 25, 150million greenbacks were not the only treasury notes issued; a 1,000million Treasury notes paid interest directly; so how can this package deal be considered interest-free? (only on the basis of ignorance)

                  Even according to Thaddeus Stevens’ wishful day-dream, the greenbacks should have facilitated the purchase of bonds:—
                  Congress would authorize 150million greenbacks –and only 150million, not more, as was stated by Thaddues on Feb 6th;
                  Government would spend this money into circulation;
                  After making 10-15 transactions these notes would come to rest in somebody’s matress;
                  Somebody would say to himself, instead of keeping them in matress, I exchange them for 5/20 6% bonds and receive gold interest and eventually gold redemption;
                  this way greenbacks return to the Treasury and government would spend them into circulation, again, and new bonds would be issued

                  This way by the end of the war 3-4 batches of bonds would have been sold which could have been paid off by 1885; and greenbacks redeemed from circulation

                • another father of the greenbacks:

                  http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/spaulding/alley23.html
                  “I am in favor of issuing no notes of a less denomination than ten dollars, because I am opposed to the Government competing in the circulation with the banks any more than is absolutely necessary to provide for its necessities; and if the small note circulation is left for the banks to supply to the local currency, predicated upon United States bonds, I think the interest of all will be promoted in the end, and simple justice only done to those institutions. It has for a precedent the wise example of the Bank of England during the suspendsion of specie payments by that institution. It allowed the country banks to supply the local small note circulation, and thereby made the security stronger and confidence greater in the whole system.”

            • >>>>US is only a small part of the world
              The conspiracy industry is a U.S. industry

              Is there a conspiracy industry in Holland ?
              Is it accomplishing anything ? (other than making some money for the conspiracy-mongers)
              Is there a political force in Holland that advocates the cleansing of the country, the removal of Africans and mid-easterns from the country ?
              Is there any danger that the various national fronts in Europe come to power and re-arrange things (along the Swiss lines)?
              Is there any danger that the United States of Europe is dismantled ?
              Is there any danger that the United Nations is dismantled ?

              What have all those anti-masonry books of a 100 years ago accomplished ?

              (there is no conspiracy industry in India, in China)

        • I like your clincher at the end REN!
          The rest too!

          Thank you for reading and commenting!!

  4. you are mirroring, echoing, parroting and/or agreeing (not sure how to weight these possibilities just yet) with 108Morris108’s talking points (he harps on them nearly evry vid he makes; calls it ‘gayCoc(k)racy’ in the 666th he just made).
    He blocks me, not the only reason he is terribly, tragically wrong.
    His name tag has rainbow colours oddly enough.

    Last nite i listened to a recent William Irwin Thompson interview where he says gender is 8 fold, without crediting Andrew Lehman though i think i pointed him that way over a year ago. Might be a similar case of him accusing Wilbur of plagiarising ‘his’ quadrant stuff though that is common usage since Geert ??? the dutch sociologist took psychological forms of the medicine wheel mainstream, perhaps borrowing from Jung and in WIT’s case more importantly, from McLuhan. Bob Dobbs makes the case he introduced WIT to that very source way back so who is the plagiarist here?

    Male on male IS very problematic and the usual pattern is butch and repressed gays prosecute the flamboyant ones (NaZis) and then sockpuppet and sublimate thier significant other with thanatopian technology, nowhere better dramatized than in the rocketry related sections of Gravity’s Rainbow.
    Pink Triangle by Richard Plant and Pink Swastika, based on it, several similar works i can’t name off the top of my head, pretty much nail this.

    Thing could go very differently though. My ‘panoplistic’ gender pattern sortage harmonizes as follows: the butchies get to do the tough n rough thoroughly enough for the softies to work the softened stuff; rock grinding and compost making as the perfect and welcome groundwork for the breeders to do THEIR thing(k). Thonk, only appropriate conclusion by genderically, politely correct genderpolicy wonk possible; simplicity can make sense very literally. Insights like this are either unattainable or irretrievable for those high up in the arms use hierarchies but oddly enough that position is kind of a ground zero minimal requirement to begin spreading and deploying this priceless meme.

    • I’m sorry to say I really don’t understand much of what you’re saying here Piet. But let me be sure to say that I couldn’t care less about who does it with whom. As long as it is not in my face and in the public space and as long as it is not plugged as a ‘alternative lifestyle choice’ by the State, who then goes on to actually outlaw people helping gays getting rid of what seems to be a development disorder.

      But I don’t even care about that, as long as nobody is disallowing me to hold that opinion and express it in a reasonable manner.

      The gay lobby is really quite annoying, not only because they are wrong, but because they sell their mistake in such an atrocious way.

  5. “An important aspect of this issue is that the ‘liberals’, the Cultural Marxists promoting sexism, feminism, pornography, the homosexual/transgender agenda, abortion, the breakdown of the family, the neglect of children, the denial of personal responsibility and freedom, legalism, materialism and all the other depravities that the modern age is famous for have suffered an uncanny moral defeat. Slowly but surely they are losing their venomous grip on the ‘humanitarian’ agenda.”

    I’ve been following your posts on money, and have tended to agree with you. Now I see a political/cultural/religious aspect to your vision, and I’m taken aback. Demonizing ‘liberals’ is meaningless, as there is not one mold that characterizes ‘liberals’.

    The use of language has gotten so loose that defined terms mean many different things to different people. You sound like you think they (the ‘liberals’) have a unified agenda for wrecking the world and sending us all to hell.

    The root of ‘liberal’, I believe, is liberty: freedom, tolerance, among other things. Promoting sexism and feminism seems contradictory. That they aim for ‘breakdown of the family’, ‘neglect of children’, and ‘other depravities’ sounds a bit paranoid and delusional. They want to promote free lifestyles with a moral basis, just like everyone else – except some don’t Believe in Christianity. That you assume you have righteous goals and God is behind you disappoints me.

    • hi robdashurob denehy,

      Thanks for sharing this. Let me add a few notes to put this proposition of mine in perspective and see we can get a little closer to each other.

      As you can see I put wrote ‘liberals’, not liberals. The American meaning of the word liberal is quite specific and very different from what is understood by liberal in Europe (where it is usually associated with the right).

      Please understand that I’m not some neo-con, christian fundamentalist or from the hard right.

      Also, when it comes to my love of God, it has nothing to do with churches, religion or a need to force others into worship.

      As you know, the Money Power rules through divide and conquer, and one of their main tools is the phoney left-right divide.
      Both camps are completely dominated by ‘thinkers’ (mind controllers) and useful idiots regurgitating the nonsense that the Learned Elders come up with to fool us.

      The right nowadays is about big business, Imperialism, psychopathetic lack of care for the poor, fundamentalist anti abortionist, even when the mother is dying or when a young girl is raped. Other notable depravities of the right are the horror of 2 million Americans behind bars with their inhuman ‘tough on crime’ stance, obnoxious racism, militarism and a very deplorable kind of ‘patriotism’.

      The ‘left’ is like I described.

      once we snap out of the matrix, one of the first things we have to do is really consider ALL our positions on EVERYTHING, because 99% of what we believe is what has been instilled in us.

      I used to be a lefty. I thought feminism was okayish (I was raised by one, and that was a horror, but still I bought the politically correct line), thought abortion was grand, free sex walhalla, smoking dope was fun, I thought all ‘poor’ people needed state help etc.

      And then I started to read. It was not pleasant to face my brainwashing, but brainwashing it was. It is not that those infected with Cultural Marxism are bad people, I was not a bad guy. I was wrong, that’s all. My beliefs were damaging to me and those around me. That’s why the enemy went through all the hassle of getting me to believe them.

      I’m not at war with anybody. But it is most certainly lamentable that 40 million very small people have been cut to pieces in their mother’s womb as ‘birth control’. And that’s just one of the issues. Once you investigate the real power behind ‘women’s lib’ and the idea that women rule over their womb, even if their is new life in it, fathered by somebody else, then you will quickly understand that you have some contemplation of your own to do.

      It is not about intentions, I’m pretty sure many of the Cultural Marxists basically mean well, but the adversary has been playing havoc with our moral compass and that most certainly must be addressed.

      Be that as it may, one of the key reasons I keep a low profile with most other issues, including this one, is that I don’t want to distract too much from the all important monetary. However, sometimes I let slip through a few other items: I feel people have a right to know where I’m coming from. I’m quite positive that that, in the long run, helps my credibility and thus of Real Currencies’ message.

      • “once we snap out of the matrix, one of the first things we have to do is really consider ALL our positions on EVERYTHING, because 99% of what we believe is what has been instilled in us.”

        Important point. There are battles of narratives and belief systems in circulation. They really are between the descendants of the 1960’s cultural revolution in America.

        There’s left and right; Dem and Repub; Christian and “Other”. Each represents a popular view that sustains one’s belief in the sense and rationality of it all.

        The Authorities or PTB are the ones that define our reality, particularly media. How did the MSM get coopted to carry the message of endless capitalist adventures being the way to paradise?

        So, it is a battle between authorities and the reach and penetration of their messages (their narratives). DeToqueville has some very perceptive writings in Vol. 2 of Democracy in America about political beliefs, their generation, and the willingness to follow leaders in a democracy. Without a unifying force to bring consensus on civil matters in a democracy, the will to achieve significant changes and transitions is not there.

        Good luck.

  6. Yes, it is highly insulting to be equated with sub-human garbage william still who knows fuck all about money banking and its history; but what could we expect from the charlatans’s desciple

    >>>>the struggle against Usury is only beginning
    Ye invent this dogma, based on absolutely nothing, while reality is that nothing is beginning; we are at the final stages of societal evolution

    >>>>John Turmel, Tommy Kennedy, Margrit Kennedy, Helmut Creutz, Hank Monrobey, Mike Montagne
    Other than the occasional book sale, these people accomplished absolutely nothing

    >>>>Victory is inevitable
    If anything is inevitable, it is a total collapse

    If you stopped smoking dope (although the damage is permanent and ir-reversible; it makes people pagans and flaming liberals), and stopped bullshitting the audience, that would be a step towards something

    (the temperature is 5-6-7 centigrade, have only seen snow on top of the Olympic mountains where there is always snow)

    >>> the worst battles are still ahead.
    Have you swallowed something while servicing Still or Makow which deluded you into grandeur ? What battles ?! Who battles ? internet porch-monkies clicking on the mouse ? or village morons who send money to book-peddlers ?

    As for gun-control—
    the gun-toting bitter clingers are being displaced and re-placed by people who for centuries lived under the most horrendous communal society before white people showed up on their shores; today they have been raised by outright marxists or libaration theologists (which are the same); they have no care or concern for paper money, gold money
    Read about the future of America:
    Luis Eaudin, “L’Empire socialiste des Inka”. Paris 1928.
    What happened in the United States in the past 200 years was only a fluke, an un-avoidable, but unintended side-effect; it is now over, everything is under control, no need to entertain silly ideas
    The awareness of money and banking reached the highest level in the U.S. during Andrew Jackson’s presidency; that was 150 years ago (today ye don’t have Jackson, don’t have agrarians, don’t have state banks opposed to the central bank, don’t have senators and representatives; the only thing ye have are book-peddler charlatans for 100 years now) today ye not only couldn’t elect someone like Silas Wright, couldn’t even find one to nominate

    They cry out loudly against all banks and corporations, and all the means by which small capitals become united, in order to produce important and beneficial results. They carry on a mad hostility against all established institutions. They would choke up the fountains of industry, and dry all its streams. In a country of unbounded liberty, they clamor against oppression. In a country of perfect equality, they would move heaven and earth against privilege and monopoly. In a country where property is more equally divided than anywhere else, they rend the air with the shouting of agrarian doctrines. —March 12, 1838.

    Where are the large number of people (and their representatives) in 2012 who would cause the high (if not the highest) ranking advocate of the money power to speak like above quote in the U.S. Senate ?

    One third of the planet’s population is made up of Indians and Chinese, who consider coin the only money and value; and they really wouldn’t care for the Spartacist (illuminist) Silvio Gessels’ expiring paper scrips
    The muslims who –among others– flood, and are the future of, Holland, also consider coin the only money (interest or no interest, your drug-induced paper concepts and hypocrite inventions will not have takers among them)
    Read about the form of government the people of the middle-east lived under during most of their history—
    Karl A. Wittfogel, “Oriental Despotism, A Comparative Study of Total Power.”

    • Oh Name, you’re all wrong, not to worry!

      When the Indians and the Chinese can choose between 5% credit in coin or 0% credit in paper, they’ll prove to be human after all. True, their excess credits will be quickly converted to tangible assets and services, maybe even some gold, who knows? Because we are offering interest free credit as a means of exchange, after all. Not as something to hoard into oblivion. These silly Indians and Chinese will understand that, won’t you agree?!

  7. Thanks to you Anthony for commenting positively on the evolution and growth of the shift toward “usury free living.”

    Another very active “usury free creative” is worthy of mention for opposing “usury” and promoting the “usuryfree time currency” movement. His name is Wayne Walton – he has been instrumental in helping various communities launch a usuryfree time currency in the past year. The most popular is “Mountain Hours” in Summit County, Colorado.

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