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Hitler’s Finances and the Myth of Nazi Anti-Usury Activism

by on September 16, 2013
Hitler's Finances and the Myth of Nazi anti-Usury Activism

(Left: the Emperor wears no moustache……)

There is the widespread notion that Hitler was fighting the Money Power and that he was a problem for the Bankers because he created a Usury free economy. But there was no Usury free Third Reich economy. The German taxpayer continued to pay interest over the substantial national debt and commercial banking received interest for its fractional reserve banking based loans, which to a large extent financed the war.

“Our greatest social task is the abolition of interest slavery. This responsibility to abolish interest slavery towers above all other issues of the day. It is the only solution to the greatest problem of our time. The breaking of interest slavery is the most important moral imperative in social terms, it rises in its general significance far beyond all questions of the day, it is the solution of social questions, it is the only way out of the terrible confusion of the time. The abolition of interest slavery will deliver us from ultra-capitalist domination while avoiding both Communist destruction of the human spirit and Capitalist degradation of labour. The abolition of interest slavery opens the way to a truly social economy, by liberating us from the overwhelming domination of money. It opens the way to a state based on creative work and genuine accomplishment.” – Gottfried Feder 1919

By Anthony Migchels

Where does Hitler’s reputation for anti-Usury activism come from? It was more Nazi propaganda to get him to power than his actual policies after he did. It was not Hitler, but Gottfried Feder who was the anti-Usury man of the Nazi. Hitler in Mein Kampf: ” For the first time in my life I heard (through Feder, AM) a discussion which dealt with the principles of stock exchange capital and capital which was used for loan activities. After hearing the first lecture delivered by Feder, the idea immediately came into my head that I had found a way to one of the most essential prerequisites for the founding of a new party.
To my mind, Feder’s merit consisted in the ruthless and trenchant way in which he described the double character of the capital engaged in stock exchange and loan transactions, laying bare the fact that this capital is ever and always dependent on the payment of interest.”
And:
“The struggle against international finance capital and loan capital has become one of the most important points in the program on which the German nation has based its fight for economic freedom and independence.”

Point 11 of the NSDAP 25 point program, a manifesto that officially (but not in practice) expressed Nazi policy:
“Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.”

Hitler put it this way: “Our financial principle: Finance shall exist for the benefit of the state; the financial magnates shall not form a state within the state. Hence our aim to break the thralldom of interest.
Relief of the state, and hence of the nation, from its indebtedness to the great financial houses, which lend on interest.
Nationalization of the Reichsbank and the issuing houses, which lend on interest.”

But as we shall see, Hitler did not implement any serious monetary reform after he came to power. He did make finance completely subservient to the State and, more specifically, rearmament. But he did not nationalize any banks and the Reichsbank was already nationalized by the Weimar Republic by the time he came to power. He did not end interest payments to ‘the issuing houses’, who must have made an uncanny fortune throughout the war. He did nothing to decouple the Stock Exchange from the economy.

Feder was made Secretary of State for Economic Affairs, but was from day one sabotaged by Reichsbank President Hjalmar Schacht and replaced by him in August 1934. It was Schacht who was to manage the Nazi economy, not Feder.

Schacht’s and Hitler’s policies allowed full control of the economy, which was used to maximize production for the sake of war. But it did absolutely nothing to limit in any way massive war profiteering by the financial and industrial classes that brought him to power.

The Reichsmark
The Reichsmark was created 1924 after its predecessor, the Papiermark, had been inflated into oblivion. 1 Reichsmark was 1 Trillion Papiermark. The Reichsmark lasted until 1948, when it was replaced by the Deutsche Mark. So Hitler simply used the monetary system that he inherited from the Weimar Republic. The Reichsmark, like any other banking unit, was lent into circulation. It was a Gold backed unit until 1931, when the depression forced the Reichsbank (the Central Bank) to implement exchange controls, which effectively took Germany off the Gold Standard. A Gold peg remained in place. There were 1, 2 and 5 Reichsmark silver coins.

Hitler inherited the official Weimar 4,5% maximum interest rate. He ruled by decree, but never changed this. In fact, after the Nazi economy began to boom due to heavy spending on rearmament, it seems interest rates were raised to combat inflation. I’ve been unable to find any data on real interest rates during the Nazi era.

Who was Hjalmar Schacht?
Schacht was born in 1877 as the son of an aristocratic family. He joined Dresdner Bank in 1903 and already in 1905 was meeting people like JP Morgan and Theodore Roosevelt. He studied Hebrew to advance his career. In 1908 he joined Freemasonry. He oversaw the financing of Belgian/German trade during WW1 and used his former employer Dresdner Bank for this. This blatant conflict of interest led to his dismissal, but the revolving door was not invented recently and he was taken back by Dresdner Bank after this.

In 1923 he joined the Reichsbank and played a key role in ending the hyperinflation of the day. A little later he was made President of the Reichsbank and remained in this post until 1930. Since at least 1923 he was actively resisting the war reparations that were destroying the German economy and called for resurrection of German power. In 1926 he became involved with the NSDAP and supported their rise to power, although he never became a member.

He oversaw the formation of I.G. Farben in the twenties.

Schacht was a member of the Keppler Circle, a small group of businessmen that were at the heart of the Nazi movement and which financed Hitler’s rise to power. Wall Street was very influential in this group and contrary to what many Hitler apologists claim, played a heavy role in both financing him and war profiteering.

Shortly after Hitler came to power he was reinstated as President of the Reichsbank and when he replaced Feder as Reichscommissar for the Economy, he basically gained full control over the economy. This lasted until he was fired in 1939, when the German economy was overheating and Schacht wanted to limit spending on rearmament and was accused of ‘mutiny’ by Hitler.

Banking in Nazi Germany before the war
After becoming President of the Reichsbank, Schacht immediately started implementing policies aiming at giving the State full control of financial markets. This was known as ‘the New Plan’:

“(1) restriction of the demand for such foreign exchange as would be used for purposes unrelated to the conspirators’ rearmament program; (2) increase of the supply of foreign exchange, as a means of paying for essential imports which could not otherwise be acquired; and (3) clearing agreements and other devices obviating the need for foreign exchange. Under the “New Plan”, economic transactions between Germany and the outside world were no longer governed by the autonomous price mechanism; they were determined by a number of Government agencies whose primary aim was to satisfy the needs of the Nazi’s military economy.”

Foreign exchange controls were implemented to manage shortages in foreign currencies. Rules for credit creation by the Reichsbank were cancelled, aimed at potentially limitless credit creation to provide the economy with the liquidity it needed to get back at full employment.

All policies were aimed at 1) making sure the Government was basically the only borrower at domestic capital markets and 2) to make sure there was always enough credit available.

Price and wage controls and indeed rising interest rates were used to combat rising prices that would have resulted from these inflating policies.

Between 31 December and 30 June 1938, the national debt of the Reich rose from 10.4 billion Marks to 19 billion Marks.

There was no nationalization of banks. In fact: some banks that the Weimar republic had nationalized during the early days of the depression, were again privatized. Private banks played a crucial role in financing the rearmament effort. They were put under close Reichsbank control to make sure their lending was what the State wanted, but nothing was done to limit their profitability.

The Stock Exchange
While railing against this typical exploitative instrument of finance during his rise to power, Hitler did nothing to limit the stock exchange’s scope and operations once he had the chance. The stock exchange system in the Reich was superficially reformed: a number of its outlets were merged and the number of exchanges declined from 25 to 9 as a result. But volume of trading was never threatened and during the early Hitler years it saw annual double digit rises until 1937, when the Reich’s economy started faltering and the stock exchange lost about 10% of its capitalization between 1937 and 1939. After the war broke out the stock market saw a massive boom, rising 50% between the falls 1939 and 1941.

In 1934 heavy taxes were levied on dividend payments higher than 6%, but the aim of this was not to limit profiteering, but to enhance self-financing of publicly traded corporations. They were expected to recycle more of their profits into their own operations, to make them independent of capital markets, which the State intended and managed to completely dominate for its own financing needs. There were loopholes to evade this measure and shareholders were not damaged, as it implied deferment of dividend payments and not real limitations.

The Reich’s policies also made sure the common man did not enter the stock market, as they were expected to lend to the Government and not to speculate. But still, the amount of funds being diverted to the stock market were not invested in the war and “It was then (1942, AM) that the government stepped in and destroyed the last relatively free market in the economy. Loans for the purchase of stocks were prohibited. Shareholders had to file a declaration with the government of all shares purchased since the outbreak of war if their market value exceeded 100,000 Reichsmark. The government could, at any time, request that any of these shares be delivered to it for cash and that the proceeds be invested in securities to be specified by the government. (Nathan)”

MEFO
While every effort was made to assure the State’s domination of capital markets, there was simply not enough liquidity in the economy to create full employment and unlock the German Folk’s full productive capacity for rearmament. This could have been solved by having the State go massively into debt, in typical Keynesian fashion. But this would have created both political and economic problems and, equally important, would have shown the full extent of rearmament to the Reich’s enemies.

Instead, Hitler, right after coming to power, fired Reichsbank President Hans Luther and reinstated Hjalmar Schacht, who was willing to build on Luther’s Oeffa’s: Government promissory notes aimed at creating employment that would create the extra liquidity needed to finance Hitler’s plans.

Schacht created a special purpose vehicle (SPV, a dummy corporation) called MEtallurgische FOrschungsgesellschaft (MEFO), which was used to accept bills of exchange drawn by German weapons manufacturers and received by all German banks for possible re-discounting by the Reichsbank. The bills were guaranteed by the Reich for five years and were thus (indirectly) convertible to Reichsmark.

MEFO bills of exchange were a pure bookkeeping operation and there were no actual paper certificates. They circulated between MEFO, the Reichsbank, commercial banks and manufacturers, not in the wider economy. At its peak there were about 12 billion worth in circulation. Key was that they were kept off the Reich’s books as all transactions were logged at the MEFO SPV. Because of this, nobody really knew the extent of spending on weaponry.

While they solved the depression and allowed for the Nazi war machine, they also created fairly serious inflationary pressures. And while this kind of construct may sound ‘innovative’ to the uninitiated, they would have been a no brainer for an experienced banker like Schacht. As said, they were based on certificates (called Oeffa) that the Weimar Republic was already circulating and national treasuries had been circulating their own certificates routinely, when pressing political issues forced them to increase their financial clout. The US Treasury had its Treasury notes before the Civil War. The UK printed ‘Bradbury Pounds’ (debt free notes) to finance WW1. The Canadian Treasury printed its own debt free money as of 1935 and during the twenties and thirties advanced monetary reform programs were widely discussed throughout the West.

Conclusion
Hitler was heavily indebted to Feder’s anti-Usury stance in coming to power. But early on during his reign he got rid of Feder and relied on Schacht for the financing of his war plans. Unlike Schacht, Feder was not heavily involved with the top bankers and industrialists of the age. The German economy was directed completely to rearmament. Consumption levels were kept low through taxation and wage controls. Imports and production of luxuries were severely restricted.

Schacht made sure the financial industry was focused solely on war preparation and in effect allowed only the State to borrow on the domestic capital markets. International trade was primarily reliant on (scarce) foreign currencies and while there was some international bartering, it was far from dominant. The Reich’s financial industry did not decouple entirely from international finance, although foreign exchange controls were strict. For instance: the Bank of International Settlements continued dealings with the Reich.

There was no usury free economy. The common man or small business actually would have next to no access to credit at all. Even manufacturers were forced to become self financing, so the State could monopolize borrowing on the capital markets. The stock market boomed like never before.

Instead, all policies were directed at securing sufficient funds for rearmament, not at minimizing financial exploitation by the parasitical class that Hitler so vehemently attacked with his rhetoric. Finance was a matter of volume, not cost. Schacht’s MEFO bills have been wrongly jumped upon to claim Hitler was an anti banker man, while Schacht himself has the typical bio of a high level Money Power operative. He was a life long friend of BoE chief Montague Norman and was acquitted at Neurenberg, where the Soviets wanted a conviction while the British made sure he was released.

The myth of Nazi anti-Usury activism is damaging, not only because of its mythological character, but because it allows the Money Power to defame anti-Usury activism through ‘guilt by association’. In fact, many Austrians and Mainstreamers, call usury-free monetary reform programs ‘fascist’. Fascism itself is being rehabilitated because of its supposed stance against finance capitalism. But as we have learned from Bolton’s ‘The Banking Swindle’, the twenties and thirties saw many monetary reform programs throughout the West, far from all associated with fascism. After the war they were relegated to a memory hole because of this false association with fascism.

War profiteering by the industrial and financial class was in no way restricted. As a result, they profited immensely from the war. This was indeed the main reason for them to enable Hitler’s rise to power and their loyal support of his policies during the rearmament and the war. Even today, the main culprits like the Thyssen family, Krupp and the Goebbels step-children owning BMW are among the richest people in Germany. The same banks that financed the Reich’s war are now among the biggest in the world.

(with special thanks to Niels Verduijn and Ad Broere)

Afterthought 1
Let me be the first to admit I, until recently, believed much of what was said about Hitler’s ‘usury-free’ economy and have inadvertently contributed to the harnessing of this meme.

Afterthought 2
I agree with much of revisionist history. Post war historiography is just wartime propaganda. The Holocaust needs serious revaluation. Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill were psychopaths who committed horrible crimes, against the Japanese, their own people, the people the colonized and against the Germans.

I do feel that at this point many in the Alternative Media go overboard, making Hitler a hero. This is unwarranted. The current article shows, in spite of what many believe, he was far from a renegade in a financial sense. There is also the Hunger Plan: Hitler and the Wehrmacht High Command intended to have the Wehrmacht live of the Russian land they were to occupy by robbing the farmers of their harvests. They cynically calculated this would starve 30 million Russians. Thankfully they never had the chance to fully implement this, but still millions of Russians starved because of the Wehrmacht taking their supplies.

The fact is that Hitler always wanted to invade Russia and his explanation that it was to save the world of Marxism, which he well analyzed to be a Jewish front, is irreconcilable with his take that Britain was a nation of Aryan brothers and the British Empire ‘necessary’ and a great civilizing force in the world: even at that time it was well known that the British Aristocracy had merged with Jewish Money and that the City of London was the Money Power’s capital.

Hitler was an imperialist who wanted to conquer Russia for the third Reich and intended to kill untold millions of Russians to take their land. His rise and fall gave the Money Power everything it wanted, including the war itself, the Zionist Entity in Palestine, the EU, Soviet domination of Eastern Europe, the destruction of the British Empire, the UN and the Cold War.

We will probably never know whether he was a useful idiot or willing stooge, but while he may have been no worse than his antagonists, he certainly also was no better.

Sources:
Hitler and the Banksters, by Ingrid Rimland
Nazi War Financing and Banking, by Otto Nathan
Ziopedia on MEFO’s
Jewish Virtual Library on Schacht
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, by Antony Sutton

Related:
Lincolns was indeed a Money Power Agent
Book review: the Banking Swindle

Part 2 and 3:
Hitler’s finances, a Response to my Critics
Hitler’s Finances, Schacht in his Own Words

275 Comments
  1. dgaubatz313 permalink

    I’ll read part two and three another time. Thank you for this wonderful article. I get tired of people Hitler worshipping so much that they refuse to have an open mind on subjects surrounding him.

    I’m not done watching the documentary yet, but have you heard of Jim Condit Jr? He claims that Hitler was actually part Jewish. A lot of the Nazi generals and officers were at least part Jewish too. This whole Nazi movement lead by Hitler was controlled by the Zionist money power and world war 2 was planned before it happened. Gregor Strasser and Gottfried Feder were used by Hitler, if only they knew about Hitler the deceiver earlier.

    Hitlers speeches were amazing, but his actions after 1934 were not.

    I’m going to ask something irrelevant now. If we were to eliminate usury what would we do to keep the profiteers from engaging in more profiteering? If capital cost went down, what would keep people from maintaining the prices they already charge? I hope you start talking about the profit problem, usury is important problem though.

    http://financialparty.ca/
    http://monetaryreform.com/profitDebt1.htm

  2. Same can be said for the lies about the “Lincoln Greenbacks”
    https://www.garynorth.com/public/6875.cfm

  3. rogerglewis permalink

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  4. Marco permalink

    Your info contrasts directly with the truth
    Jews were intent to bolshevize Germany
    They were thrown out of banking and Germany. And the economic miracle occurred.
    Even General Patton said “we foughtbthe wrong enemy”

    The info I speak of with different insightful facts

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  7. Georg Holger Bård Mahesha Hummel permalink

    Nazis were economically opportunistic, and while they opposed the liberal-capitalist bloc it had less to do with economic theory (on which the Fascists and Nazis were always rather vague and more anarchistic than socialist) than their belief that the specific democratic-consumerist ideology of the West was morally toxic.

    I am very much pro-usury and pro-capitalist and piss on trade tariffs as well as those who promote them. That being said, I agree with Hitler: Western culture is a poisonous suicide cult, as we are well seeing today.

  8. Magnus Dux Polonorum permalink

    Dear Anthony,

    I don’t really think you did this on purpose, but you somehow overlooked that between the eastern frontiers of Germany and the western borders of USSR, there was like a 1000 km stretch, a country called Poland.

    Apart from the fact, that Hitler actually partly-succeeded in wiping off Russians – Germany’s ‘curtous visit’ to USRR took the lives of ca. 27 million Soviets, about 16% of contemporary Soviet Union’s population.

    The greatest success however (percentage-wise, anyway), he managed to accomplish on the Polish soil. He exterminated 22% of the pre-war population of the country. Hitler and the Nazis were inclined on wiping off the Slavic nations of Europe (actually the majority of the continent’s populace, either then and now). They considered Slavs sub-humans, or die Untermenschen.

    I know this might be news to a person from the Netherlands, where, as opposed to Poland, you didn’t have a law that made hiding a Jew punishable by death, and not only – mind you! – for the rescuer, but for his whole family, and often entire villages/ neighbourhoods.

    Apart from this, a great read. Thank you.

    • In fact Magnus, I consider Hitler’s invasion into Poland as a mere prelude to the invasion of Russia: he wanted to secure a common border for the invasion.

      Having said that: he did offer Britain peace, with the resurrection of a Polish State (although weakened), but Britain never responded to his ongoing peace overtures, as they were the main instigators of the Greatest War.

      • invasion of Preußen you mean right idiots and Oberschlesien and Posen Deutschland never Poland

        • Listen, I like Justice4Germans, I like his sources, I like his drive, his passion, and I agree with a lot of what he says.

          But you should never believe people uncritically, and despite his many strong points, he is obviously monetarily illiterate. You should be able to gather that from his response, which is simply irrelevant. Compare this to the exact description of the monetary system I provided in the article.

          The Monetary System of the Third Reich was the same as under Weimar, what changed is that Schacht provided some extra liquidity (at 4% = Usury). This was hardly a huge innovation, but the effects were astounding, because they solved the basic issue: lack of liquidity in the economy, because the Banks were not lending.

      • Trev permalink

        you have been debunked, your lack of proper research astounds me. My conclusion is you are a paid shill.

        • Not at all, people blathering about ‘Hitler ended the Gold Standard’ and ‘Financed the economy with labor certificates’ simply have no incling at all about the whole thing.

          Read part three of this series, and read some actual source material, like the relevant quotes from Schacht’s memoires, instead of quacking the lines of well meaning, but monetarily illiterate Revisionists.

  9. Ross N. permalink

    http://archive.org/stream/HowHitlerDefiedTheInternationalBankers/HowHitlerDefiedTheBankers_djvu.txt

    “Thus arose the school of international finance, in which the Rothschilds and other Jewish money-lenders were very able teachers. In fact the mentality of England was developing in such a direction as to enable the Jews to prepare for the blessed day when Britain would be one of their colonies. These three principles — ruthless competition, free trade at any cost, and the investment of money without any regard to blood, nation, or race are fundamental to the international capitalism in the interests of which Britain has mobilized her forces to destroy National-Socialist Germany. They are the basic axioms of the old order…” – William Joyce, Twilight Over England (1940)

    Schacht was a Gold man and a banker, and he did work with other international bankers to solve exchange rate problems. It took him and other German economists 18 months to deliberate on MEFO Bills, mostly because they couldn’t shake their lifelong conditioning that money is supposed to be private credit based on gold. After reading most of Schacht’s works, especially magic of money, I think he genuinely cared for the German people, and was distressed by their unemployment. MEFO bills acted as state credit for four large industrial concerns (military primarily), and the bills were examined before discounting to make sure goods were produced. The bill could be rediscounted and the Reichsbank secured the bills with their ability to make money. Near as I can tell the interest paid on MEFO’s fluxed outward into business, which then could be used to pay labor. (All capitalism pays labor via prices.) Schacht takes note of how tax revenue increased, which then shows the increased circulation of MEFO credit entering money supply.

    With regards to the trading of international goods outside of usurious international credit, that was also Schachts’ creation. It was as simple as putting German credit on the books of foreign trading partner, and goods then transferred back and forth between the two economies. In this way, Germany acquired raw materials needed and its trading partners acquired finished goods. All international trade is only barter, as proved by this mechanism.

    Click to access Hjalmar%20Schacht.pdf

    “The modern reader comes away with a faith in Schacht’s sense of personal responsibility for safeguarding the prosperity of all those dependent upon sound money and a functioning economy. He provides no detail on his Masonic membership, but we’re allowed the clue of the poem he wrote as the opening for Confessions:

    Neither violence nor power of the purse Fashion the universe. Ethical action, spiritual force May reshape the world’s course”

    Hitler and Schacht came into disagreement in 1938 as Schacht was worried about a third inflation; this disagreement caused Schacht’s dismissal. Hitler wanted to keep on spending on Armaments.
    In defense of Hitler, he may have known about Stalin’s secret buildup of offensive weaponry in the Urals, and hence Hitler’s view that the communist international was a real threat.

    Schacht in “Magic of Money page 145”:
    “The inflationary developments came into public view most prominently through the figures issued by the central bank. The fact that in 1938 with a population of 70 million and in a condition of full employment a note circulation of eight milliards (billion) was sufficient, while at the present time also in a condition of full employment with only 50 million inhabitants, double this amount has been reached, presents us with a phenomenon which cannot be healthy or right. The warning notes sounded by all this were not heeded by (Hitler) those who shape Germany’s economic policies.”

    With regard to McFadden, below link are his quotes from Congressional record. One standout:

    http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/mcfadden.htm#.VYX24flViko

    “ Mr. Speaker, the people of the United States should not permit financial interests or any other special interests to dictate the foreign policy of the United States Government. But in this connection history is now repeating itself. You have heard, no doubt, of the so-called persecutions of Jews in Germany. Mr. Speaker, there is no real persecution of Jews in Germany. Hitler and the Warburgs, the Mendelssohns and the Rothschilds, appear to be on the best of terms.

    There is no real persecution of the Jews in Germany, but there has been a pretended persecution of them because there are 200,000 unwanted Communistic Jews in Germany, largely Galician Jews who entered Germany after the World War, and Germany is very anxious to get rid of those particular Communistic Jews. The Germans wish to preserve the purity of their own blond racial stock. They are willing to keep rich Jews like Max Warburg and Franz Mendelssohns, whose families have lived in Germany so long that they have acquired some German national characteristics. But the Germans are not willing to keep the Galician Jews, the Upstarts”
    In Suvarov’s book “icebreaker” Suvarov says this about Hitler:

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/suvorov_icebreaker_ch04-06.htm
    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/suvorov_icebreaker_ch29-33.htm

    “Stalin was more cunning than Hitler, more cunning and more perfidious.”

    Stalin was also exultant after signing the Ribbentrop pact, “I have deceived Hitler!”

    Hilter was Stalin’s icebreaker. Hitler was to wage war with the West and when the west was depleted of energy, it could be invaded and collectivized. Private Bankers funded Soviet Russia, and also funded the Haavara transfer agreement.

    Hidden money power pyramid, or outright communist power pyramid, it does not matter. It is dialectic of the same tribe. By holding the the world’s axis in your hands, and you can direct its spin.

  10. Not true. Interest wasn’t paid to a hostile central bank not of the people!! I blogged about this here: https://pridecomethbeforeafall.wordpress.com/2014/02/10/hitlers-economic-miracle/

  11. here is to you migchels – barnes review endorsed my version – Id say that I must have really destroyed this BS hit piece completely – imagine if I tried a little

    March/April Barnes Review journal of Nationalist thought

  12. Did poster Mike Strobach, who claimed Hermann Raushning ghost wrote Fritz Thyssen’s I PAID HITLER, get him confused with Emery Reves whom Henry Ashby Turner (German Big Business and the Rise of Hitler (New York: Oxford University Press, 1985) believed was “ghostwritten” by the “Hungarian” Emery Reves. (He does not reveal that Reves was actually a well-connected Jewish propagandist.) Turner wrote a German paper on the subject, “Fritz Thyssen und `I Paid Hitler’,” Vierteljahrshefte für Zeitgeschichte 19 (1971): 225-44 that can be read free online in PDF format. BTW Hermann Rauschnig didn’t even write HITLER SPEAKS. This was proven by Wolfgang Haenel and written up in a 1985 article in Der Spiegel, Vol.37, pp92-99.

  13. 1945 – Tyskland står i brand – Riket är skändat, ett våldtaget land – Svinen har fullbordat våldtäkten…på ännu ett land

    you still refuse to even try and debate this great piece that holds more praise from hitlers enemies than from his followers? cant debate my historical avalanche of truth can you migchels??? dont be a sore loser… just be a loser – why cry or hide???

  14. Alan Whitham permalink

    I am pretty new to revisionist history , but it always struck me as strange that the luftwaffe didn’t bomb the City of London , the financial centre . If Hitler was at war with Jewish bankers he would have ordered it flattened . A horrible truth is dawning ! I believe this article explains a great deal . Isn’t it funny all the so called conspiracies are inextricably linked to the same group of elite banking families .

    • L.Schlageter permalink

      German policy = bomb military targets iaw intl.treaties on warfare.

      • oh you mean they didnt do this? yeah your right – Germany were the only respectors of rules of warfare

        The Real St. Valentines Day Massacre – Dresden, Hamburg, Berlin Tyskland står i brand

        turns out the war crimes report on dresden was captured by the americans and turned over to jewish syke war who used pictures of german dead to prove a jewish holocaust – there is other stuff too like the wehrmacht war crimes bureau documentaing katyn and being blamed for it for 50 years until we finally learned the soviets did it… many atrocities committed by the soviets were documented in the east by the germans war crimes bureau and the pictures of germans photographing and documenting the most heinous crimes ever committed – by the jews of course – the pictures were used to prove a mythical new religion of 6 million vanishing communists… the 60 million in russia – they were europeans so who cares right? europeans are not gods chosen right – europeans only care about jews – welcome to the twilight zone – good thing ragnarök is around the corner…

    • Alan, you 100% right.
      But then again, even if Hitler wanted to flatten London the Polish pilots were too good in the Battle for England and defeated the Germans in the air. Therefore Mike Strobach hates them so much, ha ha ha ha !

      • What would bombing the city of London accomplish? Speculators don’t produce anything and can set up their thieving enterprises anywhere at a moments notice. It makes no strategic military sense to bomb them, if indeed that was the consideration.

        Unlike the Barbarous allies, Hitler had a policy of NOT bombing historic and artistic sites of value. Hitler did not even wish to bomb civilians until he was provoked by constant allied bombing of civilians by Churchill.

        • Really?
          So, you don’t consider Warsaw a historical city?

          Well, that says a lot about you !!

          • Warsaw was a ‘fortress city’ in the front line, just as Stalingrad was, when the Luftwaffe bombed them. Bombing them was within the boundaries of well established international war law.

            The indiscriminate bombing of defenseless citizens in basically open cities, however, as the Allies managed to inflict on Germany, was an unprecedented war crime and escalation.

            Never before in modern history had the mass scale killing of basically non-involved civilians been perpetrated, certainly not on this scale.

            And yes, it was Churchill who started this. Already around 1917 he wrote about how wonderful strategic bombing by the RAF would be in the near future: all the British Empire would need now were some bombers and chemical ordinance, to control the vast expanse of the Empire, according to Churchill.

            Mind you: I’m not defending Hitler’s methods. I don’t agree with the whitewashing of his Imperialism in the East, as is currently going on in the Truth Movement through Revisionism.

  15. blocked me ehh – I like it!

    • Jacob permalink

      Yes because you still.commenting meant he block you.

  16. Anthony – have any comment on any of the colorful paragraphs I posted in my much better researched debuniking of this article? notice my use of supporting documentation also…

    On January 19, 1939, Schacht was officially stripped of his mission that he should exercise for FED and City of New York in secret. He was dismissed as Reichsbank president. Six months later, on June 15, 1939, the Reichstag voted on the new Reichsbank law. In Reich Law Gazette 1939 I, p 1015, 1030 was now stipulated that the Reichsbank was to “ensure the utilization of the available funds of the German economy in nonprofit and economically expedient manner.” “In the form of profitless”, ie without interest.

    or

    Wolfgang Schäuble literally: “For the last time the country was debt free in 1948, after war and dictatorship.” [9] And he is not even ashamed at these words. Süddeutsche Zeitung, 14.10.2013, S. 4

    or

    End of 1932 saw the German price-adjusted gross domestic product a negative growth of 7.5 percent. Adolf Hitler was born on 30 January 1933 to power and in February 1933 he designed the monetary policy of the Reichsbank, ousted the foreign members of the General Council. This meant that before the end of 1933 the real gross national product (GNP) grew by 6 percent increase.

    As early as 1937 Hitler had economic and monetary policy ensure that, despite the imposed sanctions against the Reich, a growth of over 10 percent was achieved. But more importantly, at a 10 percent economic growth rate increase under Hitler’s monetary policy was at zero percent, and there were no unemployed. Even in war, there were no price increases, no budget deficit, but there was growth. [8] Adolf Hitler had therefore left his destroyed people so no debt after the end of the “World War staged by the Democrats”, which was even admitted by BRD Finance Minister Schäuble. Wolfgang Schäuble literally: “For the last time the country was debt free in 1948, after war and dictatorship.” [9] And he is not even ashamed at these words.

    or

    Today, ECB chief Draghi calls on behalf of Goldman Sachs high inflation in Germany to lift the zero-growth in the euro zone on 1 percent growth. Draghi’s slogan: “Inflation must be found – at any cost only inflation means growth.”. [11] Under Hitler it was 10 per cent growth at 0 percent inflation. Does it not sound like newly launched Versailles-mockery, as the FRG Minister of Finance on 5 September 2012 at the ZDF Heute-Journal said unabashedly: “But I’m quite sure, the Governing Council is aware, the ECB’s mandate is focused on the priority of price stability”.

    or

    Schacht, who contributed significantly to the Reichsbank Act (RBG) in 1924, making sure the so-called Reichsbank Autonomy Law was further replaced on 26 May 1922 in the direction of Rothschild control. The creation of a “by the imperial government independent Reichsbank” was guaranteed by Paragraph 1 of the new RBG. Under the Reichsbank Law Germany had already dictated the Dawes Plan as a contract item. The Reparations Commission decided on 30 November 1923 namely the convening of an expert committee under the chairmanship of financial experts appointed by the FED Charles Gates Dawes, who should decide how one could demand from Germany reparations forever. The Reichsbank was now driven by a 14-member General Council (seven of them foreigners) under the leadership of the United States. The gold standard was monitored by a foreign Commissioner and was in accordance with paragraph 28 of the RBG 40 percent, which is why the German gold had to be deposited “as security” at the FED.

    or

    It is not as though Adolf Hitler would not have seen through the game. He knew that Schacht on behalf of the Jewish world finance would seek to ensure in a new Germany the continuation of politics by private banks. Hitler knew also that he in a state of total helplessness, should he become Chancellor (Germany had as it were no more armed forces, only a barely armed 100-thousand-man army) he would have to hold out against the Reich’s enemies. So Hitler played the game and made Schacht on March 17, 1933 re-elected president of the Reichsbank.

    Of course, the House of Rothschild members appointed by the General Council of the Reichsbank were ousted immediately. The Reichsbank had to realize that “the breaking of interest servitude of money” would commence immediately after Hitler’s appointment as chancellor. Schacht remained nothing more than watching idly the liberation of Germany. Germany’s enemies, however, believed to be able to compel Hitler with sanctions to restore the old Monetary Exploitation order again. Schacht should then be active again as before.

    But Adolf Hitler ended the destructive influence of the monetary system of the FED and City of New York to Germany by a new barter agreement. The raw material imports in exchange trading increased between 1933 and 1937 of 1.4 billion marks to two billion Reichsmarks, while the finished goods imports by 500 million Reichsmark fell to just under 400 million marks. Trade in Scandinavia, South East Europe and Latin America have intensified and cash settled through clearing and exchange of commodities, which threatened the financial existence of the international power of the New York and London money-lenders.

    In this time of military reluctance of the West, who still sat on the return of Hjalmar Schacht to the levers of financial power in the new Germany, Germany was at least as far as upgrading, that would have been a war against Germany involves risks. Under this shield of brilliant foreign policy of Adolf Hitler still in 1933 the dying German people flourished to life. The words of former British Prime Minister Lloyd George on his return from a trip to Germany before the waiting journalists in London in September 1936 will remain forever in your memory. After his daughter exclaimed in the mics, “Heil Hitler”, Lloyd George added as confident: “Yes, certainly, Heil Hitler I say this because he is truly a great man..” [7] A.N. Wilson, HITLER, 2012. “A short biography”.

    • Mark D permalink

      Mike …It was Goring actually not Hitler who transformed the German Economy in 30;s He was formally appointed Hitler’s “commissioner for the Four-Year Plan” on October 18/10/1936 which gave him the key to the treasure-house. He controlled the Reich’s entire foreign-exchange reserves. No corporation could purchase imports without his approval. Göring’s methods were innovative and effective. He stimulated coal production by tax incentives, then encouraged research on synthetic-coal products like gasoline and margarine. He provided cheap artificial fertilizers for farmers. He negotiated ten-year bilateral contracts with Romania and Yugoslavia, bartering his (already obsolescent) planes and weapons for their foodstuffs; he would negotiate similar bilateral deals with Spain, Turkey, and Finland for tungsten, chrome, and nickel. Schlacht was abosolutely impotent to do anything about it!

  17. 1945 – Tyskland står i brand – Riket är skändat, ett våldtaget land – Svinen har fullbordat våldtäkten…på ännu ett land

    I gave it a Swedish title which translates to:

    1945 Germany is set on fire – the country is desecrated, a raped nation – the swines have complete the rape on yet another country

    appears as if migchels has no mustache???…

  18. Anthony – I havnt forgotten you – I was raising my many children completely alone for six months while working my industrial pipe fitting 12 hours a day 11 days in a row and also my house was set on fire – not by the jews – anyway – Im back – we are going to settle this

    Im curious – is your stance that Germany continued to charge interest in commercial banking and therefore they deceived everyone on the whole idea of breaking interest servitude? or at least
    hitler did? Is that your stance? Lets get down to it

    • Feder publicly declared in 1919 or even earlier exactly what Anthony is saying in this article
      (except for the allegations that walstreet secretly controlled nsDAP and received any money from them – Anthony added that without contemporary sources for dramatic effect) yet the nsDAP were still hailed as breaking interest servitude – usury has nothing to do with commercial banking charging interest – Anthony has gotten us to concentrate on side issues and succeeded in keeping the whole point carefully hidden – lets start with this fundamental question to Anthony and see how this progresses – what if usury is the peoples money leaving the country – what if we actually concentrate on the essential – since I alone appear to posses the complete party archives that Ill be happy to post as proof – lets get to the fundamental core of the deception Anthony is here waging – shall we?

      from anthony

      “Schacht’s and Hitler’s policies allowed full control of the economy, which was used to maximize production for the sake of war. But it did absolutely nothing to limit in any way massive war profiteering by the financial and industrial classes that brought him to power.”

      I would like to address the fact that german re armament occurred after the dismissal of schact – so why fabricate that and almost every other statement… this is going to be quite a task to show almost every sentence as false or confused… by the “new plan” do you mean the young plan? I will dig up the American sources, British sources and French sources on how Germany disarmed and was the only sincere nation of the Lacarno treaty and only re armed in 1938 1939 – after schacts dismissal – why deliberately mislead the readers? Why falsely say that interest charging by commercial banking was not a public part of the DAP/nsDAP policy right from the start – known to all Germans – and why try to shift the focus of usury to such an unimportant detail of the overall program? Would you like evidence that interest charging was part of the policy from 1919 up until 1945 and therefore your thesis is utterly destroyed? just ask PLEASE – Ill give it right to you – also – this seems to be an attempt to control the discussion not illuminate it – is that your purpose? to limit discussion? Ill be going through every sentence and providing debunking sources of legitimacy – start digging up some CONTEMPORARY evidence my friend – one of us is going to change are opinions

  19. Anthony

    There is the widespread notion that Hitler was fighting the Money Power and that he was a problem for the Bankers because he created a Usury free economy. But there was no Usury free Third Reich economy. The German taxpayer continued to pay interest over the substantial national debt and commercial banking received interest for its fractional reserve banking based loans, which to a large extent financed the war.

    lets just cover this – so in reality you agree that hitler stopped payments to walstreet financiers and broke the interest servitude to them – yes or no? forget if a german owned bank charged interest – did he break the german peoples bondage to American walstreet banks? did he repudiate the reparations payments and if he borrowed money from walstreet – which Im here to tell you he did not – where is you evidence that he did??? other than you saying it ???

  20. Anthony – the main thesis of this article I have been reading parts of – your failure to mention Gottfried Feder’s protege and co author Walther Funk Reich Minister for Economic Affairs in order to float the myth that “Feder was sidelines” and other convenient silences makes me uninterested in the article – you should really look into getting at least one source and perhaps a picture of jewish Ghenrik Yagoda worlds largest mass murderer who happened to have the same mustache! The main thesis seems to be that walstreet jews loaned money to the Weimar jews who hitler later kicked out of Germany – so therefore because money was loaned to Germany’s Weimar jewish government therefore Hitlers economy wasn’t usury free? Your counting on nobody being smart enough to realize this or what? Im confused here as you don’t have any contemporary source… Seriously – prove your point of view and Ill convert to your side as the rest of our ideology seems to be similar except your not a radical pan European nationalist – or are you?

    • I have nothing to prove to you Mike. Either you take it seriously, or you don’t. You’re hardly a great economic expert and you’re way too involved to be a decent historian either. I’m not too interested in why you think I should involve Funk (who only became a real player when it was already way too late) while you cannot even digest the article itself.

      Read part three ‘Schacht in his own words’ to find out how he solved the great depression (basic economics) and how he brags about maintaining Usury in the Third Reich by getting rid of Feder and his nonsense.

      • I take it extremely seriously and I will be reading the entire article – I wish to convert you or be converted myself by you – are you up for an honest no BS attemopt for one of us to succeed in educating the other? Im serious – I wish to pursue this as time permits but relentlessly – to the end

      • I will do that – Ill read part 2 and part 3 but if I am able to prove to you that something is either untrue or incorrect I expect you to at least admit that and Ill do the same – ciao!

  21. the numbers for german re armament don’t really rise above 10 percent of the national income until 1939 by which time the world was beginning to declare war on German Prosperity… jews declared war in 33 precisely because Hitler refused to borrow money – he even gives speeches saying “we will not borrow money” I have some of them on video – I guess Ill look for them… you have to admit you are knowingly lying or have been duped to some extent – I used to believe jews were Khazars because of Koestlers 13th tribe but I have since had the vision to realize this is impossible – the jews never even met the khazars – the khazars would have killed them and the jews are simply assuming there identity in order to pass themselves off as whites…. when I find Im incorrect on something I have no problem admitting I was wrong and I begin to seek out the real truth

    • I find this kind of information really interesting. Could you refer me to more information you know about this time period?

  22. Im going to take some time in reading this – re armament is a joke – your still using that as a way to re invigorate the economy? that’s ludicrous – re armament would sabotage any economy – also Germany was vastly outdone militarily just by Poland – if the war had lasted another week Poland would have won – that’s how short on all supplies Germany was – what I have read Poland had better equipment more tanks more airplanes and better quality everything which was why the French campaign had to wait until the next year – Im sure you are aware of this – Im curious as to why a guy of your intelligence would think re armament would invigorate and economy? you actually think re armament doesn’t cost vast amounts of money and doesn’t cripple economies? Notice how a treaty was signed to disarm ALL NATIONS – yet only Germany had to re arm – none of the other nations disarmed but Germany did – that alone earns them respect not given as the only honest party of ww2 – there is a wealth of French and even American authors of the time who saluted Hitler as a man of peace building a great social state – not less among them even Loyd George, Chamberlin and Churchill himself – this article needs a counter article – one that takes in the facts and doesn’t pick and choose what to repeat…

    What about Poland distributing maps of the new western Polish border a few miles east of berlin? I have one of these polish maps – would you like me to send it to you? this would put a huge damper on your “story” wouldn’t it? You must be aware of the pacts between France and Poland for bilateral invasions of Germany going back to 1934… it just seems as if you pick and choose history that you like and discard that which doesn’t fit in with your point…

  23. Anthony

    “There is the widespread notion that Hitler was fighting the Money Power and that he was a problem for the Bankers because he created a Usury free economy. But there was no Usury free Third Reich economy. The German taxpayer continued to pay interest over the substantial national debt and commercial banking received interest for its fractional reserve banking based loans, which to a large extent financed the war.”

    Hitler ended the reparations payments so isn’t you opening statement misleading? I don’t think the german taxpayer continued to pay interest on the national debt as hitler repudiated the national debt – Did you use Anthony Sutton Walstreet and the rise of Hitler as a source? This book has been thoroughly debunked as invented propaganda – his walstreet and the Bolshevik revolution for instance made no mention of the principal financier of bolshevism – Jacob Schiff – it has been admitted by Jacob and his decsendants the he indeed gave the revolutionaries 20 million and was there principal financier so basically he is a paid liar – Anthony Sutton – who provides no sources either… this is quite the interesting topic actually which would require much research to make the claim your making and much research to debunk it as I am attempting… many principal sources are in untranslated german… Lucky for me I possess the complete bibliothek which Americans tried to destroy in the greatest book burning in history – not burning pornography as the germans did but burning books on economics… I think this will be a lasting bond between you and I yes? investigating the greatest and least known topic of history together – Im excited = ) – of course Im quite busy

    • All of Anthony Sutton’s claims are made with primary sources. The Jewish bankers funded both the Bolshevik revolution and Hilter’s National Socialist putsch because they have a history of controlling both sides of a conflict. Sutton’s books made this efflugently clear. Only a false idol worshiper could deny this.

      • than why did Jacob Schiff admit he was the principal financier of the revolution in 1918 – 20 million dollars – and why did Sutton not mention him? why did Kuhn Loeb receive 102 million dollars from the Bolsheviks as a return in the first 6 months of the revolution and why did Sutton not mention that? Even Schiffs descendants proudly admit they financed the revolution – also – post the comment where I appear to worship Hitler if you are not a total propagandist and liar – lets have it? whats your real name? don’t have the courage to put it behind your comments heh?

      • new York times august 23rd 1921 – Kuhn loeb reveived 102,290,000.00 from the Bolsheviks as a return for financing – juri lina discovered this – Sutton hid this away as he wrote for the Schiff’s… its shown at 13 minutes into the video

        at 14 minutes – watch for yourself… most papers of the day said Schiff was behind the robbery of Russia by the Bolsheviks who were from America according to US military intelligence

        During the Invasion of Russia by jew’s from New York also known as the Bolshevik red terror, 320 jewish commissars had 264 jews from New York among them – alarming, that’s out of a total of 384 commissars.

        The first report, sent from Omsk on 1 March 1919, contains the following paragraph: “Fifty per cent of Soviet Government in each town consists of jews of the worst type…”

        (State Department document 861.00/1757)

        “it is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States but the bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning, guided and controlled by Russian jews of the greasiest type…”

        The second report, dated 9 June 1919, and sent from Vladivostok, said that in 1918 of the: “384 commissars there were 2 Negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22 Armenians and more than 300 jews. Of the latter number 264 had come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial Government.”

        (State Department document 861.00/2205)

        Both documents from: U.S. National Archives. (1919). Record Group 120: Records of the American Expeditionary Forces, June 9.

      • Ive yet to see the sources as everybody else – why don’t you post them if they exist – Sutton has no sources…

      • PM

        not only does Sutton not have sources – you say walstreet funded NS – ok so post it – who gave how much money to who? LETS SEE A VERIFIABLE SOURCE ON THIS – Im challenging you PM – lets see it? where is it? don’t try and post some debunked info on brown brothers harriman or supposed thyssen book actually written by convicted fraudster RAUSCHING – I PAID HITLER – these are not sources – lets see some hard data – Im waiting

  24. Anthony – would like to say your not that bad – Im beginning to like you – now if we can just get you digging into the real deal on this issue? the real deal would be that debt free currency has nothing to do with the currency and everything to do with a government backing it? wouldn’t you say? All that is needed in this situation of economic prosperity is for a government to back it and therefore the people correct? Isnt that the real story? the only government to do this was of course the colonists in pre revolutionary war times in America and Hitler in the 1930’s – I know of no others – perhaps Russia under the Tsar’s? Peter Stolypin the great reformer and crusher of the 1905 jewish revolution must have engaged in some national currency opposed to international control ??? II don’t really know much on him…

    • You’ve been beginning to like me for almost a year now Mike…….

      The fact is that Hitler’s money was teh Reichsmark and the Reichsmark was created just as all other European currencies that were leaving the GOld Standard were being created: by interest-bearing fractional reserve banking.

      Every Reichsmark was a debt to a bank that came with interest.

      This is the monetary system of the entire world, after leaving the 1925 Gold Standard.

      Weimar had left the Gold Standard in either ’30 or ’31, so Hitler didn’t even need to ditch it.

      • ok now we get down to it – on what evidence do you make this claim? I have not seen anything definitive from you or even remotely suggestive that your narrative is other than historical fiction – I mean come on – where is a source that states this as fact – its just you saying it and your dodging the issue – Hitler discontinued interest servitude to the new York finance capitalists that Weimar jewry had been diverting Germanys resources too – if this wasn’t true than how could the german economic miracle have taken place and where are your contemporary non jewish sources???

        • Well said. kamerad this ignorant pig is a mediocre goyim liar, spreading silly bulshit info which cant be sustainable by any means, Hitler was our saviour and the only one who has the guts to cut the ties with the jewish usury this retard is jus a stupid lame lazy who doesn’t have any important to do that hasn’t post shitty post like this defecation.

      • or even any contemporary sources? jewish or not – you having only the convicted fraudster Rausching author of “I paid Hitler” and author of other frauds… for real…

      • why was the Weimar government complicit in the 1919 gold confiscation than?

  25. Anthony – I have to admit that I still havnt read most of this article – however I just read your “reichsmark” section – I find it very interesting that according to this article there is no mention of the revenue mark that ended inflation – why is that? Im just curious it isn’t terribly important…

    What is very important is the deletion of all the Louis T McFadden comments by Ross N – He invented them all and even replaced the word “jewish banker” with German banker and “jewish international banker” with german international banker – look for yourself the book is

    Federal Reserve exposed collective speeches of congressman Louis T McFadden copyright 1970 Omni Publications Library of congress catalog card number 75-135049

    Another pathetic tactic of Ross N is to say that walstreet loans to the Weimar government which was later overthrown by Hitler were loans to Hitler

    Not one loan was ever goven to Hitler by anyone and I challenge anyone to produce evidence that there was one

    Bruening “The major Jewish banks in Berlin had been financing Hitler. One of the banks was controlled by the head of the Jewish community.

    UNSOURCED FRADULENT QUOTE

    This was most likely through Warburg banks and their connection to Federal Reserve, of which McFadden mentions.

    The Fed was underwriting Wall Street banks, similar to what they are doing today. Wall Street in turn was creating dollar loans to fund Germany in a triangular flow of money for post WW1 reparations. Triangle was Wall Street to Germany back to U.S. Treasury.

    Mike Strobach comments on idiot ross invented or misused quotations

    MCFADDEN clearly stated these loans were made by jews in the US to jews in Germany during Weimar – before Hitler and that Hitler ended all of this and became the target of both communist jews and wlastreet jews for refusing to borrow money anymore

    Library of congress catalog card number 75-135049 collective public speeches of Louis McFadden…

    Ross N is just trying to fool you – don’t buy it

    • No, the Renten Mark was not very important: it was just a temporary stopgap before they inserted the Reichsmark, that’s why I didn’t mention it in the article!

      • kind of – the renten mark stopped inflation though – that’s actually pretty important but not relevant for this campaign of trench warfare between us…

    • Read the article!!

      God you NS people can be boneheads…….littering my page, even upset a year after the fact, and he hasn’t even read this rather pertinent article that at last, finally, dissects the German monetary system under Hitler.

      And you want to preach to us about being ‘deceivers’ just because we get one or two quotes wrong?

      • this dissects the length self hating whites will go to kiss jew ass – nothing more – you have ABSOLUTELY ZERO contemporary sources – meanwhile Loyd George amnd even Winston Churchill seem to support my ideas – they congratulated Hitler for saving the german economy – how did he do that paying usury? while we are at it – you seem to love to ignore the facts – you claim the german taxpayer continued to pay on the national debt – why not admit the national debt was repudiated by hitler and was never paid off? would you like me to find the information proving this to you? Also – Hitlers economy was totally usury free – he traded german goods for goods from countries like Argentine completely usury free – you don’t want to confront the issue that usury or usury free is about cutting out international finance capitalists completely – which Hitler did – I will read this bonehead article and write a rebuttal when I get into the translating of

        National Socialists and the bank question
        productive job creation through productive credit creation
        Money and credit in out economy
        economic management in the third reich
        the german state new ways in finance and economics
        the bankruptcy the answer
        and several others – hug task for a young guy that is an industrial pipe fitter – perhaps if you could see the light or convince me with actual evidence to see the light we could stop this nonsense but its a trench war stalemate between us right now… Ill be gaining the upper hand soon

        When I delve into these a little more I will write the rebuttal that will destroy this article entirely – I could probably do that now but as you have no contemporary sources it doesn’t appear to be urgently important – your main piece of evidence is that you have a flashy picture of hitler with no mustache and that you support Bolshevik mass murder of eastern Europeans by hiding their crimes – take a look at this – this type of professional research is what you are up against here – guys who are able to reproduce contemporary sources – granted Im all on my own – Ill destroy this utterly – youll see

        As for me being a national socialist – that is incorrect – I am a

        Modern Radical Pan European Nationalist

        the guys you liberal leftists tell horror stories about what will happen if we take power and of course you are right – the liberals and liars tried there hardest to ensure that there would never be guys like us again – in the process creating their own antithesis and worst nightmare – if you are wondering what I mean than perhaos you have heard of professor Kai Murros – I consider his work to be the most significant work done since 1945 – his radical ideas are exactly what Europeans need – supposedly we are the bogey men – its time to become exactly that once and for all waging wars of annihilation on all who would try and destroy the once proud race of warriors craftsman and explorers – the voice of Europe is an angry voice and it calls for the first time for us to regain our ancient habits of self preservation against the liberals – the liberals must disappear of course for this to happen… the irony is Hitler was so nice to all of you but you would rather deal with guys like Eiríkr blóðøx…

  26. David Irving claims to have correspondence written by Chancellor Bruening that states that Hitler was financed by Jewish private banks. Irving’s explanation appears at 1:40:45 in the following lecture given by him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk The letter also appears in his book “Churchil’s War”

    • Ross N. permalink

      Thanks pm. See also:

      http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v15/v15n5p33_Weir.html

      Bruening “The major Jewish banks in Berlin had been financing Hitler. One of the banks was controlled by the head of the Jewish community.

      This was most likely through Warburg banks and their connection to Federal Reserve, of which McFadden mentions.

      The Fed was underwriting Wall Street banks, similar to what they are doing today. Wall Street in turn was creating dollar loans to fund Germany in a triangular flow of money for post WW1 reparations. Triangle was Wall Street to Germany back to U.S. Treasury.

      Germany had to pay hard currency (Dollars/Pounds/Francs) to the Allies for reparations but was restricted from exporting goods to acquire those dollars. So, credit money sourced in Wall Street, along with a Debt instrument. These dollars as loans made their way to Germany, then ultimately to a central bank in London or France, and then back to U.S. Treasury.

      Out of one pocket private credit dollars were created in wall street. and then into another pocket at U.S. Treasury. In meantime, debt instruments on Germany grew with Usury. This is the real reason for the hyperinflation, as this mechanism eventually collapses the exchange rate. With few exceptions all hyperinflations are exchange rate collapses.

      The Warburg banks, which were largest banks in Germany, were allowed to operate relatively unimpeded, especially from 1933 to 1935.

      ————
      At a meeting in July 1934, Hitler asked Schacht if he would also head up the German Economics Ministry. “Before I take office I should like to know how you wish me to deal with the Jewish question?,” Schacht asked. “In economic matters, the Jews can carry on exactly as they have done up to now,” replied Hitler. And so it was — at least for a few years

      When Hitler came to power in January 1933, Max Warburg was Germany’s most prominent Jewish banker. He headed the most important private banking firm, and was a member of the “general council” of the nation’s central bank. In March 1933 he approved Hitler’s decision to name Dr. Hjalmar Schacht as president of the Reichsbank. The document naming Schacht to this post is signed by Chancellor Hitler and President von Hindenburg as well as the eight members of the Reichsbank “general council,” including the Jews Mendelssohn, Wassermann and Warburg.

      • the Warburg banks were closed down immediately following Hitlers enabling act – all of this is sheer BS – in the books by niall ferguson this is all documented very thoroughly – not only that – your hitler quote is unsourced – its fraudulent – why don’t you have sources? your McFadden quote is backed by a link you posted which when you click the link its clear you yourself added all of the jazz about Germany… this is pathetic – you don’t have one source… I happen to own mcfaddens only authored book and there is nothing in the entire book like what you here are inventing that he allegedly said… people like you should be posting with their real name so as to be easily available for in person “talks”

    • except I have churchills war and there is mysteriously NO LETTER…. you guys are pathetic… could someone post sources along with all of this BS and also – the german state new ways in state finance and economics is now on its way to being translated – which is the death nail for this whole series of BS propaganda!

      • I’ve just recently discovered Irving’s work and haven’t read Churchil’s War yet; so I can respond to that.

        However, if you believe he is lying about what he clains he wrote in his book or that he possesses correspondence from Chancellor Bruning stating what he claims, then I suggest you write him yourself and tell him what a dummkopf he is.

        Be sure to let us know his response.

        • what? Irving was ruined by the lawsuit – he has worked for the jews ever since – everyone knows that…

          • Now you are the one engaging in unfounded speculation.

            your evasion, of course, arises out of your fear to ask Irving for his proof, because he might produce it and shatter your unrealistic notion of your idol’s character.

            • Ill make sure to email him personally – however – I will not be lumped into a category with Ross N who is inventing fraudulent quotes of McFadden – nice try… instead of me emailing Irving – which I will do – I would like to logically demand that he who posted this insanity bears the burden of proving it – SO LETS SEE THE PROOF!

            • Hitler isn’t my idol – Corneliu Codreanu is – the Iron Guard didn’t piss around – they killed people outright – including the Rumanien jewish prime minister… at least pretend to be aware of more than your own empty headed thoughts…

    • irving laughing at ideas of hitler being a Rothschild

      • He’s laughing because in Irving’s estimation, “the little man with the postman’s moustache” lacks the intellectual & cultural ability to be a Rothchild.

        • I think he clearly states “black sheep of the family” to mean – oh my god this man is actually stopping us dead in our tracks – curiously enough the famous “jewish banks funded hitler” statement of yours doesn’t exist in the book as have read – unless its been included on a reprinting – and yet the very statement clearly states that they were German jewish banks – if in fact the statement was even made – so you choose to believe walstreet funded hitler and you choose to believe that Irving says “German jewish banks funded Hitler” yet you refuse to admit that Irving also says “No new York walstreet banks funded Hitler and the German jewish banks that funded him were very much in the minority of principal funders – do you see how you people operate – deceitfully – now whats your comment on what I am confronting you with?

          • No, once again you are wrong. Calling corporal with the postman’s mustache a “blacksheep of the family” means that he would be an embarrassment to the family. It also impugns his character as being a criminal, a simpleminded thug. The night of the long knives wherein he murdered all of his friends was a prelude to his career as a dictatorial warmonger.

            That you think jewish usury banking can be confined to a nation shows how desperate your pathetic, decietful apologetics are. If he took money from private banks in Germany, it is the same as taking from Banks in wallstreet, city of London or wherever. They are all part of the same criminal cartel. You might check Irving’s book, Hitler’s war for that correspondence between Bruening and Churchill. He must have misspoken in the lecture I linked to, because in his latest talk in Austin texas he refers to this correspondence being in his book, “Hitler’s War” David Irving 2014 Austin Texas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLEzZ0_q7Z0 … Irving is quite convinced Hitler would take money from anyone that offered it. His character certainly doesn’t contradict this belief.

    • Here is part of the correspondence from Bruning that Irving refers to from his book “Churchill’s War”:

      “We have no note on what they discussed; but perhaps this is the place
      to mention that ten years later Dr Brüning wrote to Churchill’s publishers,
      enjoining them not to publish a letter he had written to Winston on
      August 28, 1937 about the tragic error of those guilty of funding Hitler
      before his rise to power. Industrialist Friedrich Flick and the I.G. Farben
      company had been forced to contribute only after the Nazis came to
      power, he said, but he knew from bitter inside knowledge as chancellor
      that others, including the French secret service, had voluntarily financed
      the Nazis into office:”

      “I did not [Brüning wrote to the editors of Life, prohibiting the use
      of his letter, in 1948], and do not even today, for understandable
      reasons, wish to reveal that from October 1928 , the two largest
      regular contributors to the Nazi Party were the general managers
      of two of the largest Berlin banks, both of Jewish faith, and one of
      them the leader of Zionism in Germany.” * ”

      ” * Brüning stated that the French secret service and Schneider-Creusot works had made
      up one-half of Hitler’s revenue from  until ; and he added that before 
      the S.A. (Brownshirts) and S.S. had been equipped with revolvers and machine guns
      made in the United States.”

      Page 134, “Churchill’s War” by David Irving.

      • I would like to see the letter written by Brüning – where can I view if it really exists?

        look – maybe it is in David Irvings book in a later publishing than the one I read – we need the letter though to verify this sTORY – who cares anyway – its obviously irrelevant – there is no evidence to show Hitler received any money from any jews – how do we know that this wasnt made up later on? tell me how many banks in Germany at the time were NOT CONTROLLED by jews and show who actually gave him the money through the bank… I mean today all banks are jewish so everyone is funded by jewish banks correct – well in 1930 all banks were also jewish so the jew also funded everyone than as well – grow up man for real

        Also – have you ever looked into the german jews attitude on Hitler and attitude towards the so called “American world jews” German jews all considered themselves as germans and they supported hitler and opposed communist jews – I don’t think many if ny german jews ever went to a concentration camp – only foreign communist jews from Poland and Russia were sent to camps because they entered the country illegally and were attempting to destroy it and promote jewish bolshevism – 200,000 German jews served in the army – explain why that is? because German jews were national socialists like Heinz Weichardt – read what Heinz Weichardt says – we know German jews supported Hitler nd fanatically opposed the “world jews” and all banks were jewish so why wouldn’t Hitler have received money that passed through ANY BANK… you don’t get it do you? Why don’t you show the medallion of Adolf Eichmann struck with a hakenkreuz and a jewish star as a symbol of unity regaurding the settlement of Palestine by german jews in defiance of Britain and claim its a secret jewish Nazi plot – you guys are propagandists nothing more – you manipulate little facts into giant lies without ever having evidence of any kind – read my article – it has supporting documentation from the enemy even! unlike you and Amthony’s propaganda twisting of reality… read what a german jew thought of Germany here you go educate yourself on reality

        http://archive.org/details/UnderTwoFlagsByHeinzWeichardt

        German-Jews Against International Atrocity Propaganda (1933)

        World War II started in 1933!

        Exposing the “Nazi” Epithet – Who started it, why, how, and who benefits

        Origins of World War II – The Unexpected Views of Four Key Diplomats Who Were Close to Events

        talk to me aftefr you get aquainted with reality ad also find me one mention of any kind of holocaust by the Europeans who would have known – Churchill and Charles Degaulle – find one mention of it in their writings… this total twisting of the truth that you are attempting here – pathetically I might add…

  27. Ross N

    collected public speeches of congressman Louis T McFadden

    “After World War I, Germany fell into the hands of jewish International Bankers. Those bankers bought her and now they own her, lock, stock, and barrel. They have purchased her industries, they have mortgages on her soil, they control her production, they control all her public utilities.

    McFadden was a well know anti semite – German sympathizer – critic of Rosenfeld (Rossevelt’s) jew Deal accusing Roosevelt of being a communist and accusing American jewish international bankers of attempting world government through world wars etc.. Its all in his collected speeches – would you like the ISBN number so you can get on thing right? Also the author of your only source Rausching “I paid hitler” Fritz Thyssen did not write this fraud and that’s documented fact… cant you post something that’s verifiably true? you even word it “comments are attributed to Louis T McFadden” pretending not to know that his public speeches have been printed… McFadden – they guy who said that the federal reserve jews are the same jews destroying Germany in the 30’s and also the same jews sending American money to fund bolshevism militarization in Russia in the 30’s and earlier… 100,000’s of American workers were sent to Russia to build all the factories for military armaments etc…

    Alex Dolgun – An American in the gulag
    Andrew Smith – I was a soviet worker
    John Noble – I was a slave in Russia

    John noble even stated publicly that Americans captured by North Korea were being sent to the jewish run gulag death camps in the soviet union… you guys have a sick agenda here///

    and you pretend Hitler was funded by jews in New York… Are you serious? that’s pure fiction… WAR WAS DECLARED ON HITLER BY JEWS IN 1933 BECAUSE HITLER REFUSED TO BORROW MONEY FROM NEW YORK JEWS – this is well documented – world war 2 was usury – America against national credit Germany

    Sieg Heil doesn’t even mean Hail Victory – who here can tell me what Sieg Heil actually means?

    • Ross N. permalink

      After WWI, Germany fell into the hands of the German International Bankers. Those bankers bought her and they now own her, lock, stock and barrel. They purchased her industries, they have mortgages on her soil, they control her production; they control all her public utilities. The International German Bankers have subsidized the present government of Germany

      and they have also supplied every dollar of the money Adolf Hitler has used in his lavish campaign to build up a threat to the government of Bruening. When Bruening fails to obey the orders of the German International Bankers, Hitler is brought forth to scare the Germans into submission.

      Through the Federal Reserve Board over thirty billions of dollars was pumped into Germany…You have all heard of the spending that has taken place in Germany…modernistic dwellings, her great planetariums, her gymnasiums, her swimming pools, her fine public highways, her perfect factories….All this was done with our money. All this was given to Germany through the Federal Reserve Board.

      The Federal Reserve Board has pumped so many billions of dollars into Germany that they dare not name the total.” – Rep. Lewis T. McFadden (D PA), Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee, 1931, (spoken before Congress eight years before Hitler invaded Poland and duly entered into the Congressional Record.)

      ((Rep. Louis T. McFadden (R. Pa.) rose from office boy to become cashier and then President of the First National Bank in Canton Ohio. For 12 years he served as Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency, making him one of the foremost financial authorities in America. He fought continuously for fiscal integrity and a return to constitutional government.)

      http://wtfrly.com/2013/03/08/the-international-bankers-famous-quotes/#.VA-Hh_ldX01

  28. The following revisionist Documentary “The Greatest Story NEVER told – The untold story of Adolf Hitler” may be of interest to people here. http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/

  29. Ross N. permalink

    Below comments as attributed to Louis T. McFadden. McFadden was Chairman of the House Banking Committee and an astute observer of money power machinations. Scan down to 1929 to put the events in context:

    http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Bankers.htm

    It (Gold and Credit being sucked into American banking private banking pyramid) also was spent overseas, as whilst the Great Depression was occurring, millions of American dollars was being spent on rebuilding Germany from damage sustained during World War I, in preparation for the bankers World War II. Republican Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking & Currency Committee from 1920 to 1931, stated the following in relation to this,

    “After World War I, Germany fell into the hands of the German International Bankers. Those bankers bought her and now they own her, lock, stock, and barrel. They have purchased her industries, they have mortgages on her soil, they control her production, they control all her public utilities.

    The international German bankers have subsidized the present Government of Germany and they have also supplied every dollar of the money Adolph Hitler has used in his lavish campaign to build up a threat to the government of Bruening. When Bruening fails to obey the orders of the German International Bankers, Hitler is brought forth to scare the Germans into submission…

    Through the Federal Reserve Board over 30 billion of dollars of American money…has been pumped into Germany…You have all heard of the spending that has taken place in Germany …modernistic dwellings, her great planetariums, her gymnasiums, her swimming pools, her fine public highways, her perfect factories.

    All this was done on our money. All this was given to Germany through the Federal Reserve Board. The Federal Reserve Board…has pumped so many billions of dollars into Germany that they dare not name the total.”

    The money pumped in to Germany to build her up in preparation for World War II, was into the German Thyssen banks which were affiliated with the Harriman interest in New York.

    1930 The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) was established by Charles G. Dawes (Rothschild agent and Vice President under President Calvin Coolidge from 1925-1929), Owen D. Young (Rothschild agent, founder of RCA and Chairman of General Electric from 1922 until 1939), and Hjalmar Schacht of Germany (President of the Reichsbank).

    • Ross N. permalink

      Paul Warburg was a director of American I.G. Farben and thus connected to the financing of Hitler. Max Warburg, a director of GERMAN I.G. Farben – signed along with Hitler himself – the document which appointed Hjalmar Schacht to the Reichsbank. This was to reassure German big business and foreign bankers.

      Note: The Reichsbank was forced to become a fully private bank under the American Dawes plan on May 26, 1922. Private banks have interest due on all their “money” and hence are used to fund a private elite. The hyperinflation of Germany was thus under the aegis of a private banking system.

      On Jan 30, 1933 Hitler and National Socialists come to power. On May 1, 1933 Hitler outlined the Reinhardt Program: Spend 1B Marks of employment creation bills, Tax benefits for industry, agriculture and employment of domestic help. Marriage bonus of up to 1000 Marks. Government control of money and capital markets under Schacht. (This action prevents the exchange market from collapsing under bear raid mechanisms.)

      May 31, 1933 German government decides to issue 1B Marks of short term public works bills aimed in a circulation channel that enhances infrastructure. These bills paid 4.5% interest and were taken up into the banking system. They could be rediscounted and renewed and thus cycled out of the banking system back into the economy, where they became part of the monetary base. They circulated alongside Gold , foreign exchange money, and long term Government bonds. They also were aimed at re-armament. Since they paid interest, many of them stuck in the banks, to then pay usury to private banks, and thus a government issue of more would be required.

      Schacht later referred to these work drafts as MEFO bills, and mentioned no connection to Federer.

      Even though the bills had interest on them, they were close in action to Federer’s Giro money as they were lawful Government entities.. (Giro money is Sovereign money for example Greenbacks at zero interest). The MEFOs put purchasing power into the economy.

      In 1929 Germany had gold reserves of 2.9B, on Jan 30 1933 2.6B, and in only 83M in 1934. Germany’s ability to run an economy without Gold probably threatened vested international (Zionist) interests. England with a large component of their wealth as gold, or so they thought Gold was wealth, would be particularly threatened.

      The Warburg banking interests were allowed to operate unmolested in Germany until 1935. This special dispensation suggests that they were previously a funding conduit for the national socialists – as a Bruening Government counter foil, as mentioned by McFadden.

      So, National socialists used some forms of money issuance (interest bearing! = bad) aimed at specific channels that improve productivity = good. They controlled the exchange rate to prevent outside influence i.e. bear raids = good. They used Zionist money in the beginning = bad. They stopped using Gold = good, but this development got them into serious enmity of the international financier and those countries that used Gold.

      On March 24 1933, Jews declare war on Germany.
      http://guardian.150m.com/jews/jews-declare-war.htm

      Certainly, by March of 1933 Zionism would have been aware of the negative effect (to them) of going off the Gold Standard.

      Zionists and parasitical “international” banking interests will always react violently when their funding source “mechanism” is under threat.

      However, Nazi Germany’s finance banking system, like the BRIC’s of today, charge usury and thus enriches private Oligarchic elites, and also protects big corporate interests. Nazi banking scheme, despite spending into channels of production (good) was still pyramidal.

      • that is incorrect – Max Warburg was not director of IG farben and neither was Paul Warburg and I challenge you to post this document signed by Hitler – Im waiting and shall be forever as you invented this story yourself…

      • I am the witness??? thats your source for fradulenty quotes on Mcfadden when I have his official Speeches from the ;library of congress in my hand, do us a favor Ross N you moron… you know what it is

    • Anthony Migchels – I always wanted to tell you that I find your pro bolshevism to be appalling – I mean – you seem to justify the jews from new York according to American military intelligence in the national archives

      During the Invasion of Russia by jew’s from New York also known as the Bolshevik red terror, 320 jewish commissars had 264 jews from New York among them – alarming, that’s out of a total of 384 commissars.

      The first report, sent from Omsk on 1 March 1919, contains the following paragraph: “Fifty per cent of Soviet Government in each town consists of jews of the worst type…”

      (State Department document 861.00/1757)

      “it is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States but the bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning, guided and controlled by Russian jews of the greasiest type…”

      The second report, dated 9 June 1919, and sent from Vladivostok, said that in 1918 of the: “384 commissars there were 2 Negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22 Armenians and more than 300 jews. Of the latter number 264 had come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial Government.”

      (State Department document 861.00/2205)

      Both documents from: U.S. National Archives. (1919). Record Group 120: Records of the American Expeditionary Forces, June 9.

      In any case – I find your support of bolshevism in lieu of JOHN NOBLE’s experience as a SLAVE IN RUSSIA – he had estimated 28 – 35 million slaves in the Russian Gulags in the early 50’s as he was held for a decade by Russia… I find your support of bolshevism disgusting as you do know how murderous it was and yet you try and whitewash it making the moral humanitarian out to be evil? how? what evidence that Germans did anything bad? They overrann the Ukraine deportations to Siberia and saved millions of peoples lives? you know about this film and you know its true – yet you would white wash this? with no evidence against Hitler you just follow the narrative choosing to pretend this isn’t well known?
      SHAME ON YOU ANTHONY!

      • What are you talking about Mike? Why in the hell would I support Bolshevism?

        I’m against communism, in all its guises and most certainly I recommend to all to read Solzhenitsin and his story of how the Jews killed 66 million Russians between 1917 and 1953.

        • either in this article or the other BS article you make the claim of evil germans treating captured Russians poorely etc… we know this isn’t true however and the fact that you can make such an attack against Germany unsubstantiated but yet fail to mention any of the evils of communism such as juri lina has done in the film above shows you are helping to hide the evils of communism – why else would you repeat untrue anti german propaganda and not repeat the facts of evil jewish new York communism? why else wouldn’t you tell both sides of the story? ALSO this Ross N guy is posting absolutely fraudulent supposed quotes from not only hitler but especially from Louis McFadden – why not remove these fraudulent McFadden quotes as they were invented by Ross N or is that how you do things on real currencies?

          • mike – thanks for taking the time to dispel the spurious quotes that were attributed to the most honorable Louis T McFadden.

            It seems that no topic has been more besieged with bogus quotes and misinformation than monetary reform. This is no accident as anyone who honestly seeks the truth is periodically derailed and bogged down in a quagmire of calumny and deceit.

            Having said that, I have to admit that I’ve unwittingly repeated some bogus quotes over the years. I try to avoid this and appreciate when someone takes the time to set the record straight. For what its worth, you’ve gained some credibility with me in providing verifiable sources.

            • thanks larry – read Charles A Lindberghs 3 books on money and you will get the picture – he predicted the 29 stock market crash as deliberate jewish policy – was fighting them all the way back in early 1910’s

            • Charles A Lindbergh congressman from Minnesota father of the famous aviator Charles Lindbergh – his books are

              Why is your country at war and what happens to you after the war 1917 and other related subjects
              Lindbergh on the federal reserve
              Banking currency and the money trust

              I can get you ISBN numbers if you need – couldn’t find it for the McFadden book ??? Im looking right at it and it just has a library of congress catalog card number ???

              Lindbergh Sr is the guy to look into – McFadden was only following in his footsteps…

          • Marc permalink

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        • many people will cease to believe in you Anthony if you allow this ross N to invent fraudulent McFadden quotes – this tactic of jews in America borrowing jews in Germany money until Hitler stopped it is totally natural for jews to do – however if you Anthony allow the message that walstreet loans to Weimar jews were really loans to hitler you will totally lose all credibility – seriously man – this is very easily debunked… I would stop these fraudulent McFadden quotes and undated loan transactions to hitlers enemies being made to look like loans to hitler even though they were clearly not made to hitler – I would stop all that nonsense right now – makes you look desperate and honestly you looked desperate with this subject matter already – this thing was believed by very few people of low intelligence only – nobody has taken it seriously especially since you left out so much information like Walther Funk Feder’s protégé and co author and schacts successor… very ridiculous – also Rausching author of I paid Hitler – that’s a proven fact and yet you hope nobody will notice – the harriman IG farben thing is another desperate thin ice attempt – Im not going to waste much more time proving 99% of the comments as well as half the article to be patently false but it shows much about the character of such people – are you also a deceiver of the people Anthony?

          • Why attack me for some bogus quotes that Ross inadvertently came up with?

            Ross is only as good as he is because takes note of these matters and like Larry said: us monetary reformers get inundated with bad quotes, we’ve been busy cleaning them up for years. Personally I hadn’t heard of bad McFadden quotes yet, so we’re all happy you’re setting the record straight.

            To err is human, to insist pigheadedness. Report back when you see the latter.

            • no – because Ross simply switched the word jewish with the word german – you of all people should have said “ok that’s going to far Ross…

    • not one penny of American money ever went to Germany except for the building of all the jewish owned pedophile and adult pronorgraphic brothels and such – qall the McFadden quotes were invented by Ross N and also the schact and hitler quotes… we know schact was replaced by Gottfried Feders protégé and co author Walther Funk so none of Ross N bizarre concocted statements make any sense unless you are extremely drunk or mentally retarded…

      here is a 1934 attack on McFadden by a jewish newspaper – McFadden was a hitler supporter – everyone knew that in the 30’s

      L.t. Mcfadden, U.S. Fascist Ally, Beaten at Polls

      November 8, 1934

      Towanda, Pa. (Nov. 7)

      Notice Fairmont Sweet Butter, since its introduction over twenty-five years ago to the Jewish house-wife has been and still is produce according to the Mosaic Dietary Laws and all government sanitary codes. Fairmont Creamery Co.

      What was regarded as the political obituary of Louis T. McFadden, Republican, was written at the polls here yesterday when voters brought an unceremonious end to the anti-Semite’s twenty years in Congress, dumping him overboard in favor of C. Emler Dietrich, Democrat, who received a plurality of about 2,000 votes.

      Not a Jewish tear was shed at the figurative bier of this notorious exponent of bigotry, whose loud-voiced attacks on Jewry have won him its unenviable support of Nazis, silver shirts and other anti-Semitic elements.

      Last January, addressing the House on a monetary bill, he assailed the administration for its monetary policy, charging it was instigated by “the money Jews of Wall street and foreign parts.” He also reaffirmed his belief in the authenticity of the forged “Protocols of the Elders of Zion.”

      In July, the Republican National Committee drew a blast of criticism on itself by selecting McFadden to fire the opening shot in the political campaign.

      In the speech sponsored by the Committee the Congressman said, “Don’t spend your time worrying over the alleged tyrannies of Hitler. Look first to your own case.”

      In September, Julius Streicher’s Der Stuermer carried a story from its New York correspondent, lauding McFadden as one of the few Congressmen fearless enough to speak out openly against the Jews.

      Notice Fairmont Sweet Butter, since its introduction over twenty-five years ago to the Jewish house-wife has been and still is produce according to the Mosaic Dietary Laws and all government sanitary codes. Fairmont Creamery Co.

      Read more: http://www.jta.org/1934/11/08/archive/l-t-mcfadden-u-s-fascist-ally-beaten-at-polls#ixzz3DEqcVCmo

  30. Great article.
    Hitler was not a “stooge”. He was simply not ready to go the communist or drastic ways some people like Feder advocated.
    Hitler said something like “We national socialist have no economic program” or something similar.
    Hitler believed the economy was a side-thing, the most important was the political goals. Obviously this makes sense.

    Alot of people especially from USA/UK, very mercantile societies, over-analyze hitler due to economic policy. Economics are economics. Politics are the important part.

    • Das ist völlig falsch – der nationalsozialistischen Bibliothek ist fast ausschließlich der komplexesten wirtschaftlichen Ideologien und Programme jemals gedacht hat! Zum Beispiel – diese Worte

      “Die Brechung der Zinsknechtschaft bedeutet die Wiederherstellung der freien Persönlichkeit, die Erlösung des Menschen aus der Versklavung, aus dem Zauberbanne, in die seine Seele von Mammonismus verstrickt wurde. Wer den Kapitalismus bekämpfen will, muß die Zinsknechtschaft brechen.”

      In aller Wirklichkeit – die NSDAP Lehre wird so auf komplexe wirtschaftliche Lösung des Problems, das Weltjudentum ist geneigt, dass es fast ausschließlich eine Erziehung der Massen gegenüber allen das Verständnis der komplizierten Details der wirtschaftlichen Kontrolle durch das Weltjudentum.

      In other words – what you are saying is the statement of a very uneducated and poorly understanding amateur or the statement of a complete disinfo agent. It makes no difference as you are so confused/patently false that its almost mind numbing…

      Your last sentence shows your true purpose –

      “please USA and UK people – do not look into the economic sabotage of our world – really that’s not important – hey look over there, those guys are the illuminati they practice child sacrifice and they have UFO’s…”

      Nice try…

    • So what have you to say to Hitler’s own words showing his astute grasping of economics? I think you appear absolutely incorrect yes? Try actually doing some research mr disinfo agent

    • you said that according to you Hitler said “we have no economic program” really? whats this than?

      appears as if you jewish internet defense force guys are pathetic!

      • Herr Strobach, nice of you to stop by again. I thought you might be too busy goose stepping with that guy with lightning bolts flying out of his head http://voiceofdetroit.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Oleh-Tyahnybok1.png murdering civilians in the Ukraine. Yes that communist threat must be put down at all costs! Must bring back fond memories of the old times.

        • what? Im simply pointing out how one guy says Hitler said “we have no economic program” now despite my having possession of nationalsozialismus bibliothek “economic management in the third reich – I even put a video up of Hitlers speech on Economics in the third reich which is so intelligent many of you cant grasp it , still you liberals deny deny deny, change the subject ect… liberals are every bit as pathetic as there futile attempts to stop their own creation – their own antithesis – radical pan European nationalism – none of you can stop the tide no matter how many Ukrainian jews pretend to be “Nazis” a word that was invented and used only by jews – never by Europeans – never by the 30 volunteer nations that participated in operation Barbarossa when the sons of Europa attempted to destroy soviet bolshevism created funded sent and propped up by capitalist American jews who were the recipients of the looting of Russia – 102 million dollars was received by jewish Jacob Schiff in the first 6 months of the revolution because he had financed it with 20 million dollars – Anthony suttons book “walstreet and the rise of Hitler” is pure fiction as is his other works…

          as if changing the subject to jews in Ukraine pretending to be “fictional Nazi’s” from some jewish Hollywood production will hide the true story of the third reich – one of morals, duty, honor, Victory! Salvation! As if jews pretending to be socialist civil rights hero’s in Russia didn’t actually KILL 40 million people in a very short time after they had arrived from New York in 1917… documented in – Zwei hunderjahre zusammen die juden in der sowjetunion written by nobel prize winning author Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn – everyone knew bolshevism was jewish just as we know the “Ukraine Nazi’s” are also jewish…

          • I agree, the so called Nazis are really just Jewish led provocateurs and dupes for regional oligarchs.

    • webdragon what are you referring to “drastic ways feder advocated”? feel free to post a video of Feder advocating this or a work he authored advocating these drastic ways…

  31. I don’t know where t hat last post was I made here on money but I noticed that this thing called “Bit coin” is crashing http://news.goldseek.com/ClifDroke/1392735720.php .

    It never did fit the defintion of what is money according to the Creator God in the Bible. http://hebrewofyhwh.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/what-is-gods-word-on-lawful-money-what-is-lawful-money-and-why-should-be-we-use-it/

  32. This has all been debunked by Rodney Martin (World View Foundation) on Deanna Spingola’s show. Rodney has also agreed to debate the subject live with Anthony some time later this month.

    http://spingolaspeaks.info/2013/09/24/tuesday-9-24-rodney-martin/

  33. 3 works that utterly disprove Anthony 100%

    economic management in the third reich

    The functional role of money and credit in our economy

    leading national socialists to the bank question

  34. mike the nationalist permalink

    The strasser brothers were in league with communist jews by the way, the prisoner of otawa was actually written by a jewish communist,

    Also the atrocities of poland against the german minority in the german corridor were horrendous, bromberg bloody Sunday and europes first six concentration camps were built to house germans

  35. mike the nationalist permalink

    Sophia please forgive me if I was kind of frank and perhaps mean, I’m sorry, as a german so many years of anti german hatred have made be an ass sometimes, apologies to you, this is my site. Or if you click on my name mike strobach it will take you there, I’m at work right now hence the different posting name…

    the manifest for refraction of the interest servitude of money

    That will get you there, I have several works being translated and the 3 I referenced are not posted yet, I just thought that there would be another germman speaker on here who has perhaps read them, however, das manifest zur brechung der zinsknechtshaft is translated correctly and completely, other translators have left many words in german because google translator has a hard time with old german fraktur… take care! As far as debt free currency I would recommend you also read this

    https://nationalconscience.wordpress.com/tag/united-states-note/

    • Not to worry Mike as i am a long time survivor of utube where we are called such filth I never knew existed till the juice started attacking me as soon as I created my first channel back in 07.

      thanks for the links, have been to yours and left reply there and like the JBC but no subscribe there.

      We are all one in HIS name working to manifest HIS vision.
      growl when you need to do so.
      I am learning to do that too. 🙂

  36. mike the nationalist permalink

    Anthony, long day of working and floating the welfare state which in itself is a brilliant jewish program of 1 the destruction of the working class element in society 2 the promotion of class warfare 3 the deliberate economic destruction of the country and 4 the theft of the wealth of the productive labor of the working man and the nation to fraudulent interest charges on fraudulent national debts…

    So back to the issue, we had the opportunity to exchange facts (my thesis) with total and complete propaganda (your thesis.) So, having read what I could stomach of your avalanche of complete garbage, I would like to know how you can make a claim but yet admit that you have not even read one of the many well documented and detailed publications on the breaking of interest servitude program that was embraced by the nsDAP? Not only that, but you seem completely ignorant of the statements of Loyd George praising Hitlers great social and economic revival and others like him including Winston Churchill…

    American Ambassador William C Bullitt clearly stated to Poland on several occasions from 1933 up until the Polish invasion and subsequent German response in Spetember of 1939, that Poland should continue to do absolutely anything and everything possible to provoke Hiter into a war and that Poland would have American backing, Roosevelt was heavily involved in this as well. This culminated in 35 sorties of Polish troops across the border and into Germany on August 31st 1939…

    War with Germany was due in a major way to their refusal to borrow money from International Finance Capital. In 1938, Bernard Baruch told General Marshall “we are going to lick that fellow Hitler, he isn’t going to get away with it” in a conversation regarding Hitler’s refusal to borrow money from International finance capital.

    Winston Churchill in “thoughts and adventures” published in 1932 speaks of “All the horrors of the first four years of ww1 were but a prelude to what the fifth year would have brought, massive civilian casualties and starvation. The deliberate targeting of the civilian population, the war of 1919 we never fought, but the plans remain and death stands at the ready.”

    You seem to be very confused about many things, one of which is the myth refuted by many professors like Werner Masser that Adolf Hitler was funded by any banking institutions at all, you have made quite a claim here and have offered absolutely nothing in the way of evidence or sources (even pathetic sources.) Hitler and his programs were funded by the individual German citizen to a very large extent. If you are relying on idiotic bush/nazi brown brothers harriman bs you should come up with a better story line. You claim that you used the jewish virtual library because one’s adversary is reliable? How could you possibly be doing honest research while refusing to even briefly read even 1 original source on this issue? You make great use of the adversaries wartime propaganda, even though that adversary has a financial incentive to make ridiculous claims… Meanwhile you have not read even one National Socialist publication! How exactly can you pretend not only to be an authority but to even say anything at all about the subject at hand when you have not even read or studied anything at all from the detailed German records and publications! To me that is absolutely ridiculous! Your essay which is completely unsourced contains cruel wartime propaganda selectively, not only have you failed to even read one original German source, you are ignoring British and American original sources! Most devastating of all is the original French sources in great numbers that praise the economic anti usury revival of the German Nation under Adolf Hitler, Gottfried Feder and Walther Funk(protégé of Gottfried Feder and co formulator/researcher and writer of at least one of Feder’s works…

    A note on anti usury ideology: anti usury ideology is very confused and maligned. The idea of opposing usury rests heavily on the ending of any and all programs drawing the National Wealth of a country into foreign and private hands. The concept of das volksgemeinschaft vor eigennutz is completely alien to you, I draw that conclusion based on your lack of anger at being continuously robbed by parasites collecting Unearned Income. I would assume that you have no idea of the hard work ethic of most people who drift toward the Nationalist social and economic ideology. The pride of the worker and outrage at being robbed continuously: on a personal level, also as a national citizen of a corrupt welfare state, as a consumer and earner for the family who’s income is dwindling while inflation runs rampant and our money is handed to foreigners in an attempt to facilitate the “class war.” You have to take into account what anti usury actually stands for and what creates such ideology…

    There are so many anti Hitler German and French contemporary historians who when the time came in 1933 – 1935 admitted what a miracle Hitler had performed through the complete destruction of International Theft From the Nation due to USURY, Ill post that for you later on, I have to be back at work in a few hours to support all the jews and the foreigners that are brought in to create the CLASS WAR.

    It is so important to recognize what polar opposites Soviet Socialism and German National Socialism were, besides international based theft from the nation but in particular the German promotion of class co operation for the benefit of the nation and individual as opposed to the jewish soviet or jewishj controlled American promotion of the class struggle for the benefit of the banker, speculator and Weimar Hollyood pornographer and poisoner of the youth! You have a lot to learn Anthony…

    I cant believe that you would attempt such a fabrication of the truth with the documented source materials so easily available which prove you to be 100% WRONG!

    1. The functional role of money and credit in our economy 2. Leading national socialists to the bank question 3. Economic management in the third reich

    I cant believe you would waste the time to write this frivolous article without reading this stuff…

  37. mike the nationalist permalink

    #nthony I see that you are refusing to post my well sourced longer comment from last night listing more than 10 sources proving you completely incorrect and fraudulent… why is that?

  38. whats with all the non german speakers on here talking about Gottfried Feder? None of you have read one of his works so what would you possibly know abut Feder or even the national socialist ideology? For all you idiots who think Feder was sidelined out of the party, that is the most ridiculous thing I have heard yet, hjalmar schact’s successor Walther Funk was protégé of Gottfried Feder, researched and formulated the die brechung der zinsknchtshaft ideology and co authored one of Feder’s anti usury books… sjhows how much any of you people in support of this article knows…

    Since you all know so much but have not read a single word of any German ideology than you will easily understand this

    Die Brechung der Zinsknechtshaft bedeutet die Wiederherstellung der freien Persönlichkeit, die Erlösung des Menschen aus der Versklavung, aus dem Zauberbanne, in die seine Seele von Mammonismus verstrickt wurde. Wer den Kapitalismus bekämpfen will, muß die Zinsknechtshaft brechen.

  39. Here is the economic plan outline from NSDAP in 1932

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    Background: This pamphlet, issued around May of 1932, (before the July Reichstag election), outlines the official Nazi positions on economic policy. It was issued in a large edition, and was to be binding on party speakers and writers. It provides a wide range of proposals, many of which would have looked attractive to Germans suffering through the Great Depression, which was far worse in Germany than in the United States. It is based on the work of Gregor Strasser, somewhat on the “left” of the party, and who six months later left it. The program aroused considerable opposition from business and financial circles, with the result that Hitler ordered that distribution of it cease in October 1932.

    Emergency Economic Program of the NSDAP

    Fighting Pamphlet Nr. 16: Pamphlet Series of the Reichspropaganda-Leitung of the NSDAP

    Produced by Section IV (Economics) of the Reichsorganisationsleitung der NSDAP. 2nd edition (101,000 to 600,000 copies)

    http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/sofortprogramm.htm

    • Some refs to INTEREST in this article

      An excerpt:

      II. General Economic Measures

      F. Commercial and financial measures

      Foreign trade
      Foreign currency supplies
      Law against capital flight
      Currency reform

      G. Bank and credit policy

      Bank supervision
      The money transfer system

      Reducing interest rates

      ( I spaced this as there is no making caps or underline here S)

      H. Administrative and tax measures

      Price controls
      Avoiding excessive expenditures
      Increasing the burden on those with strong shoulders
      Eliminating corruption

      and THIS is also very relevant to this thread:

      5. Profit sharing

      Interest reductions (section G 3),

      ( Just what interest was strasser referring to there? S.)

      price controls (section H 1), state supervision of corporations (section K 2), the law on employment (section M 1), the tax measures (section H 3), and the cost-saving measures (section H 2) will assure that all revenues first go to strengthening the German economy and creating jobs. As soon as the German economy has been revived by job creation and begins to produce significant profits, it will be time to develop a comprehensive system of profit sharing.

      http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/sofortprogramm.htm

    • mike the nationalist permalink

      Sophia what you posted – wirtschaftlichen sofort programm – what you are calling the 1932 emergency economic program is not the relevant gottfried feder work, the works that deal with the breaking of interest servitude are

      Das manifest zur brechung der zinsknechtshaft available in english on my website

      the manifest for refraction of the interest servitude of money

      The works actually dealing with the technical monetary system and the institution of the anti usury program are these 3

      1. The functional role of money and credit in our economy 2. Leading national socialists to the bank question
      3. Economic management in the third reich

      • One of the key points I’m making is, Mike, that Feder was the leading light of Nazi anti-Usury activism. I admire the man. He saw very clearly what very few saw and he had a way with words too. However, he was not the one to implement NSDAP policy: Schacht was. And Schacht had very different designs than Feder: his main aim was to end reparations and rebuild Germany’s army.

        Ultimately it is Feder’s work that gave Hitler the program to come to power, but when he did, he did not deliver on his promises and he did so at the behest of his major financial/industrial backers, who Schacht represented.

        • that’s complete misinformation, we know for a fact that hitler put the farmer back on his farm, the worker back in his job making more than anybody else in Europe, we saw Germany emerge from the great depression in 18 mnths and America languish in it for over a decade, even though rosenfeld and hitler achieved power at the same time, in the end America barely emerged out of the jewisjh engineered depression even with re armament while germany had been a paradise since 1935, ask jesse owens, EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS THE OPPOSITE OF DOCUMENTED HISTORICAL FACT you have not one source for any of th several mistruths you have posted, prove one damn thing you are spewing on here? Im waiting and will be forever like the last time I said that, asking for your sources on Hitler’s ending of usury…

      • Thank you Mike.
        will look at them too.

    • mike the nationalist permalink

      Sophiah you are absolutely incorrect, strasser had absolutely no influence on gottfried feder, where did you get that ridiculous statement from? Do you have a source for that? If you are unaware, gottfried feder founded the deutsche arbeiterpartei in 1919 and continued to exert total influence on the third reichs economic ideology through his protege and co author walther funk

      Anthony, why have you refused to post my well sourced longer comment from late last night citing more than 10 sources proving you absolutely incorrect? Ill just post the comment on my website… you might as well admit now that you are a total fraud…

  40. BMan permalink

    The after thought:

    Hitler was an imperialist who wanted to conquer Russia for the third Reich and intended to kill untold millions of Russians to take their land. His rise and fall gave the Money Power everything it wanted, including the war itself, the Zionist Entity in Palestine, the EU, Soviet domination of Eastern Europe, the destruction of the British Empire, the UN and the Cold War.

    dismantled virtually everything else you wrote. It simply is not true.

    As for your essay: I do believe that the Rodney Martin interview by DeAnna Spingola adequately disproved your entire thesis. You should listen.

  41. mike the nationalist permalink

    Oh anthony, no banks funded the nsdap, the german worker funded the nsdap, all of it was self financed, hitler refused to borrow more money and instead created the bond system of self financing, you article is the most pathetic because yhou openly admit that you could find no evidence on interest rates, so you admitted you have nothing to back your claim

  42. mike the nationalist permalink

    This is complete disinformation, as a german speaker I can tell you that all of the information proving you wrong exists and is in print… jewish virtual library as a source? Yeah they are biased… check this out, all schact did was approve ig farbens loan, its common information, I actually run a website that translates the works of gottfried feder into english, ill come back and destroy this pathetic propaganda attempt after work, by the way, are you open to a discussion about the disgusting jewish talmud or the jewishness of the bolshevik murderers of russia who instituted central banks and transferred the wealth of the 40 million murdered christians into jewish hands? How about the harvest of despair and 7 million dead ukranians by deliberate starvation in. 1932? The jew kaganovich masterminded this for the other bolshevik jews, even lenin was a bolshevik jew grandson of israel blank son of moshei blank a well known jew from zhitomir

  43. Anyone who thinks money should exist or tries to “improve it” is a useful idiot and a willing stooge.

    • Henrique permalink

      Exactly. The whole concept is maliciously flawed, it’s a massive con game, but the vast majority of people waste their whole lives thinking seriously about it, desiring it ardently.
      Schaht`s bio is amazing, isn’t it? Aristocrat, Freemason, high banker, what else do you need? This guy knew the plan in detail, he was completely uprooted and didn’t identify with Germany or the German people at all, but with his Enlightened Brothers of the Craft

    • Kevin Moore permalink

      I thought you may like this excerpt –

      William Tyndale – “The Parable of the Wicked Mammon”

      http://books.google.com.au/books?vid=OCLC03504544&id=o1ssQGn1UvEC&pg=PA83&redir_esc=y

      page 106,

      Mammon, what it is.

      First, mammon is an Hebrew word, and signifies riches or temporal goods, and namely, all superfluity, and all that is above necessity, and that which is required unto our necessary uses, wherewith a man may help another without undoing or hurting himself; for Hamon, in the Hebrew speech, signifies a multitude or abundance, or many, and there hence cometh mahamon, or mammon, abundance or plenteousness of good or riches.

      Secondarily, it is called unrighteous mammon, not because it is got unrighteously, or with usury, for of unrighteous gotten goods can no man do good works, but ought to restore them home again. As it is said (Isaiah Ixi.) I am a God that hateth offering that cometh of robbery; and Solomon (Prov. iii.) saith, Honour the Lord of thine own good. But therefore it is called unrighteous, because it is in unrighteous use. As Paul speaketh unto the Ephesians vth. how that The days are evil though that God hath made them, and they are a good work of God’s making. Howbeit they are yet called evil, because that evil men use them amiss, and much sin, occasions of evil, peril of souls are wrought in them. Even so are riches called evil because that evil men bestow them amiss and misuse them. For where riches are there goeth it after the common proverb, He that hath money hath what him listeth. And they cause fighting, stealing, laying await, lying, flattering, and all unhappiness against a man’s neighbour. For all men hold on riches’ part.

      But singularly before God is it called unrighteous mammon, because it is not bestowed and ministered unto our neighbour’s need. For if my neighbour need and I give him not, neither depart liberally with him of that which I have, then withhold I from him unrighteously that which is his own. For as much as I am bounden to help him by the law of nature, which is Whatsoever thou wouldest that another did to thee, that do thou also to him; and Christ (Matt. v.) Give to every man that desireth thee; and John in his first Epistle, If a man have this world’s good and see his brother need, how is the love of God in him? And this unrighteousness in our mammon see very few men: because it is spiritual, and in those goods which are gotten most truly and justly, which beguile men. For they suppose they do no man wrong in keeping them, in that they got them not with stealing, robbing, oppression, and usury, neither hurt any man now with them.
      Thirdly, many have busied themselves in studying what, or who, this unrighteous steward is, because that Christ so praiseth him. But shortly and plainly this is the answer. That The unChrist praiseth not the unrighteous steward, neither setteth ” him forth to us to counterfeit because of his unrighteousness, who it is. but because of his wisdom only, in that he, with unright, so wisely provided for himself. As if I would provoke another to pray or study, say, The thieves watch all night to rob and steal, why canst not thou watch to pray and lo study? here praise not I the thief and murderer for their evil doing, but for their wisdom, that they so wisely and diligently wait on their unrighteousness. Likewise when I say miss women tire themselves with gold and silk to please their lovers: what wilt not thou garnish thy soul with faith to please Christ? here praise I not whoredom, but the diligence which the whore misuseth.

  44. We can learn much from the real history of WW2 and maybe more importantly; the bankruptcy of many of the world economies that preceded and contributed to that human tragedy. The political economy was a hot issue through the 1930’s as many countries went bankrupt and the world was mired in a cruel depression (e.g. the US went bankrupt in 1933.

    Nation states were being crushed under odious debt that starved the productive economies. We commonly accept that a big part of the problem was that WW1 left many nations with a huge debt that simply could not be repaid while sustaining a real economy. In the case of Germany (Weimar Republic), reparations brought on the collapse faster than the victor states.

    No doubt, the debt incurred from WW1 was a contributing factor but the common monetary system of usury was the real culprit. Compounding growth of any kind simply cannot be sustained in a finite world. Eventually; the compounding growth of interest bearing debt will always outpace the means to repay it.

    When one realizes that compounding is a form (function) of exponential growth it provides us with a basic axiom that makes the macro economy easier to understand. Our monetary system is a pyramid scheme that was designed to collapse periodically while steadily moving all wealth and private property from the many to the very few. Depressions and bankruptcies are unavoidable.

    In applying the math, we have to first establish that compounding is taking place. After all, the vast majority of loans are calculated as simple interest . While individual loans (micro economy) may not compound; compounding is unavoidable in the dynamic macro economy. For example, interest is charged on interest (the definition of compounding) as products come to market through the distribution chain where each link is an interest bearing event (see Margrit Kennedy First Misconception: THERE IS ONLY ONE TYPE OF
    GROWTH
    .

    Gottfried Feder explains another source of compounding that takes place in the macro economy in the
    Manifesto for the Abolition of Enslavement to Interest on Money.

    This Chart (compiled by Feder) (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0U51-2ikrXo/Uj8xIsT3JDI/AAAAAAAAAMs/AtX99_bmfkc/s1600/Gottfried+Feder+_+Exponential+Growth+of+Debt.png) shows how the compounding of interest takes place as a proceed to the financiers who use the interest debt to leverage more interest debt.

    ”The third and most dangerous factor is the enormous growth beyond comprehension of big loan-capital through interest and through interest on interest. I must digress a bit more and hope through a small excursion into higher mathematics to explain the problem. First some examples.

    “The charming story of the invention of the game of chess is well known. The rich Indian king Shihram granted to the inventor, as thanks for the invention of the royal game, the fulfillment of a wish. The wish of the wise man was that the king should give him one grain of wheat on the first square of the chess-game, two on the second, four on the third, and thus always on each square twice as many as on the one before. The king smiled at the seemingly modest wish of the wise man and ordered that a sack of wheat be brought so that for every square the grains of wheat could be apportioned. As we all know, the fulfillment of this wish was impossible even for the richest prince in the world. All the world’s harvests in a thousand years would not suffice to fill the 64 squares of the chessboard…

    “A third example: the fortune of the House of Rothschild, the oldest international plutocracy, is valued at about 40 billion. It is well known that in Frankfurt around the year 1800, old Mayer Amschel Rothschild, without wealth of his own worth mentioning, laid the foundation for the gigantic fortune of his house through fractional-reserve lending of the millions that Count Wilhelm I of Hesse had entrusted to him for safekeeping…

    “From these three examples a mathematical law can be derived. The curve that represents the rise of the Rothschild fortune, the curve that can be derived from the number of wheat-grains for the chessboard, and the number that the multiplication of the penny produces at compound interest, are simple mathematical curves. All of these curves have the same character. After initially modest and gradual increase the curve becomes steeper and soon practically approaches being almost tangential to infinity…

    “…The insatiable interest-need of big loan-capital is the curse of all laboring humanity!”

    More recently; Chris Martenson provided a mirror reflection of Gottfried Feders’ exponential growth of interest proceeds to big finance in his curve that shows the actual growth in US debt from 1970 through 2010. The Chart is in an article entitled “Death by Debt.”

    “There’s a lot going on in this deceptively simple chart so let’s take it one step at a time. First, “Total Credit Market Debt” is everything – financial sector debt, government debt (federal, state, and local), household debt, and corporate debt – and that is the bold red line (data from the Federal Reserve).

    “…if we perform an exponential curve fit (blue line) and round up, we find a nearly perfect fit with a R2 of 0.99. This means that debt has been growing in a nearly perfect exponential fashion through the 1970’s, the 1980’s, the 1990’s and the 2000’s. In order for the 2010 decade to mirror, match, or in any way resemble the prior four decades, credit market debt will need to double again, from $52 trillion to $104 trillion… This explains everything.”

    The problem is systemic – usury (interest) will destroy any economy regardless of what is used as money and regardless of what procedures/rules might be implemented. Meaningful monetary reform will only happen when enough people recognize that interest is the most paramount problem facing humanity today. Only then can real solutions begin to emerge.

  45. Anthony i must draw your attention to RICHARD TEDORS book HITLERS REVOLUTION all that has been said about the financing of nat soc must be viewed against his statements in this book, as a journalist you may be in a position to find out more about this man as for googleing him theres very little.If you cant get hold of the book send me youre address and ill gladly loan it to you im just not qualified to do justice to it but i will say this prior to reading this i was ambivellent about the whole hitler thing but now i can only echo JFKs statement that one day the world will come to see just what a great man hitler was.
    yours Paul H H

  46. me@m2.com permalink

    Tuesday, September 24th, 12 pm, EST, for two hours on Republic Broadcasting Network: Rodney Martin rebuts Anthony Migchels’ article, The Myth of Hitler as Monetary Reformer
    Anthony please call in!!!

  47. Gunnlaug Ormstungu permalink

    Tomorrow, September 24, Rodney Martin, director of WorldView Foundations, will be on the Deanna Spingola show on RBN to discuss this article critically.

    Show airs 11 am central us time

    to listen: http://republicbroadcasting.org/

    Rodney’s site: http://wvfoundations.org/

    calls are usually taken in the second hour, though some of the shows may not take calls

    there is an active chatroom : http://spingola.chatango.com/

    I need to read this before the show.

    • The Hilter-nazi whitewash love festival should be an amusing program, as always.

      I wouldn’t bother with the chat room unless you like anti Christian bigotry (that’s what I got banned for objecting too by the regulars that hangout there) and hatred of all jews for all the wrong reasons.

  48. Part of the problem here is that you are covering a deep topic which requires more extensive treatment, if not book length then Henry Liu type length (from Asia Times Online). I am no expert on any of this and agree with your Afterthoughts 1 & 2. That said, I think there is slightly more to the story, in that it is not a simple either / or situation, either he was anti-usury or he was not. It seems more likely that he tried to keep various spheres of influence and power relatively separate, but your article does not provide enough detail for me to gauge whether this is accurate or just a wild guess.

    Here from the Rimland piece you linked and sourced: “I understood immediately that here was a truth of transcendental importance for the future of the German people. The absolute separation of stock exchange capital from the economic life of the nation would make it possible to oppose the process of internationalization in German business without at the same time attacking capital at such, for to do this would be to jeopardize the foundations of our national independence. I clearly saw what was developing in Germany, and I realized then that the stiffest fight we would have to wage would not be against the enemy nations but against international capital. In Feder’s speech I found an effective rallying-cry for our coming struggle.”(3)”

    For me the key point there is: “The absolute separation of stock exchange capital from the economic life of the nation would make it possible to oppose the process of internationalization in German business without at the same time attacking capital at such,…”

    It also appears from various remarks in that article and others that there was some serious structural difference between commercial/industrial credit and national/financial credit but again this is all too arcane for me.

    Finally, although he did increase military expenditures in the early going, this was no great thing relative to the post 1919 era. It seems that it didn’t really lift off until after the world war was well underway, so even if you are right – as I suspect is the case – that the internationalists still in the saddle during the early Hitler years were always (as they are forever) gunning for war and were successful and their heirs are still in the saddle etc., the financialisation they were involved in had little to do with the German economic miracle of the 1930’s which in turn did have much to do with
    a) different credit system of some sort and b) a national cum spiritual ‘volk’ revolution, or zeitgeist, which lifted the spirits considerably and most importantly provided meaningful, honest work for millions with tangible, inspiring results. I don’t think the international bunch had anything to do with this.

    Which again is why this subject requires more lengthy treatment. It is multi-faceted, interesting, important and highly relevant today. It is possibly one of the key dynamics in the past century which has been hidden from view and which needs extensive, but clear, exposition.

    Keep up the good work.

    • I agree. This article is not going to be the last word, nor was it intended to be. It’s aim is to bring the discussion to the next level and provoke more thought, because it is indeed a highly relevant issue.

      • You men you could write another waste of space based on misinformation and with no sources, thn when confronted with sources you will remain silent some more… please don’t torture us wit your ignorance and pathetic side stepping issues, nobody is buying your BS

  49. Kevin Moore permalink

    http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=143744
    .

    “……..No Warburgs. No Rothschilds. No Rockefellers. While the Rockefellers indirectly came into Hitler’s financial sphere by way of Standard Oil technical investments and the Warburgs via I. G. Farben and J. H. Stein later on, neither gave Hitler any financial support before 1933. And neither directly supported or paid Hitler at any point in time. The Sidney Warburg story is pure fabrication. Fritz Thyssen and some of Hugenberg’s heavy industrial connections, not James Warburg, gave Hitler substantial monetary gifts in 1929 (at least RM 1,250,000) and Deterding and several German coal companies took care of Hitler in the early 1930s. While Hitler spent a vast amount on campaigning, he was by no means rolling in untraceable money. All of his funding was carefully accounted for and most of it came from VB advertising; party dues, insurance, and speaking fees; Gregor Strasser’s left-wing faction, which received RM 10,000 per month in 1931; the good will of VB publisher Adolf Müller; and the financial frugality of party treasurer Franz Schwarz, whose meticulous party financial records were destroyed. The Americans interrogated him so brutally that he died in 1946 in British captivity. His records denoting even Hitler’s anonymous donors never turned up anywhere. The Pools suspect that the American occupiers destroyed them.
    .

    As for Goebbels’s remark on 17 January 1932 that the finances of the party “suddenly improved,” this was not exactly true. The truth is that the party’s credit line suddenly improved, and this was thanks to the maneuverings of Franz von Papen and Baron Kurt von Schröder with his syndicate of investors, including a number of prominent heavy industrialists, the Hamburg-America Steamship Line, the Stein Bank of Cologne, Commerz und Privat Bank, the Gelsenkirchen Mine Company, Deutsche Bank, Reichskredit-Gesellschaft Bank, Allianz Insurance, members of the potash industry, the Brabag Coal Company, Deutsches Erdöl, and a number of other brown-coal industrialists. While Hitler tolerated fifth-column banks like M. M. Warburg and the Temple Bank (a special account created for the Temple Society by the Reichsbank to fund Ha’avara emigration), he eventually restricted and regulated their business opportunities and forced them to assist with financing Jewish emigration. Hitler’s goal was to increasingly inhibit and thereby financially squeeze the foreign banks until they were unable to exist any longer and had to relocate outside Germany—the same policy he employed to encourage Jewish emigration and business closures. One such example was the Germanization (i.e. German takeover) of two Jewish ironworks plants in the Rhön region in 1937……….”

  50. Kevin Moore permalink

    SHARING – Liberty Equality Fraternity –
    .
    The trick that has been used against us as a death trap since the beginning of “The System” persuades us to give up our life energy, for very little in return.
    .
    “The System” can only give back a small amount of the life energy we give them due to the fact that if they gave it all back, they would be raising us to the same status as them with everyone equal and no need for a man-made system, meaning NO SYSTEM.
    .
    This is why equality has never been the intention of those behind “The System” and never will be, even though the shepherds of the rosy, cosmic, galactic, Gaia “Oneness” consciousness [New World Order] will claim that it is.
    .
    When the lies wears thin they come up with another scam, until those lies wears thin and they come up with another death trap scam…. so goes the his-story of “The System” that is the death trap.

    “The system” is what Hitler fought against.

      • Kevin Moore permalink

        The General Epistle of Barnabus chapter 9 “………wherefore it is not the command of God that they should not eat these things; but Moses in the Spirit spake unto them, …….neither says he, shalt thou eat the eagle, nor the hawk, nor the kite, nor the crow; that is thou shalt not keep company with such kind of men as know not how by their labour and sweat to get themselves food; but injuriously ravish away the things of others; and watch how to lay snares for them; when at the same time they appear to live in perfect innocence………so these birds alone seek not food for themselves, but sitting idle seek how they may eat of the flesh others have provided; being destructive through their wickedness……..”

  51. a third Bank of the United States is highly necessary and proper to the establishment and maintenance of a sound currency, and for the cheap and safe collection, keeping, and disbursing of the public revenue. —Abraham Lincoln

    The opposite of “legal tender” is lawful money. According to Scripture, lawful money has intrinsic value, like gold, silver, corn, wheat, honey, beans, oil.

    Since Gary North was kind enough to provide the electronic text online, why don’t we look at the Party platform from 1920, which can be considered as un-fulfilled promises, to bullshit the voters into support:
    quote
    1. We demand the union of all Germans to form a Great Germany on the basis of the right of the self-determination enjoyed by nations.
    2. We demand equality of rights for the German People in its dealings with other nations, and abolition of the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.
    3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the nourishment of our people and for settling our superfluous population.
    4. None but members of the nation may be citizens of the State. None but those of German blood, whatever their creed, may be members of the nation. No Jew, therefore, may be a member of the nation.
    5. Any one who is not a citizen of the State may live in Germany only as a guest and must be regarded as being subject to foreign laws.
    6. The right of voting on the State’s government and legislation is to be enjoyed by the citizen of the State alone. We demand therefore that all official appointments, of whatever kind, whether in the Reich, in the country, or in the smaller localities, shall be granted to citizens of the State alone.
    We oppose the corrupting custom of Parliament of filling posts merely with a view to party considerations, and without reference to character or capability.
    7. We demand that the State shall make it its first duty to promote the industry and livelihood of citizens of the State. If it is not possible to nourish the entire population of the State, foreign nationals (non-citizens of the State) must be excluded from the Reich.
    8. All non-German immigration must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who entered Germany subsequent to August 2nd, 1914, shall be required forthwith to depart from the Reich.
    9. All citizens of the State shall be equal as regards rights and duties.
    10. It must be the first duty of each citizen of the State to work with his mind or with his body. The activities of the individual may not clash with the interests of the whole, but must proceed within the frame of the community and be for the general good.

    We demand therefore:
    11. Abolition of incomes unearned by work.
    12. In view of the enormous sacrifice of life and property demanded of a nation by every war, personal enrichment due to a war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. We demand therefore ruthless confiscation of all war gains,
    13. We demand nationalisation of all businesses which have been up to the present formed into companies (Trusts).
    14. We demand that the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.
    15. We demand extensive development of provision for old age.
    16. We demand creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, immediate communalisation of wholesale business premises, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that extreme consideration shall be shown to all small purveyors to the State, district authorities and smaller localities.
    17. We demand land-reform suitable to our national requirements, passing of a law for confiscation without compensation of land for communal purposes; abolition of interest on land loans, and prevention of all speculation in land.
    18. We demand ruthless prosecution of those whose activities are injurious to the common interest. Sordid criminals against the nation, usurers, profiteers, etc. must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race.
    19. We demand that the Roman Law, which serves the materialistic world order, shall be replaced by a legal system for all Germany.
    20. With the aim of opening to every capable and industrious German the possibility of higher education and of thus obtaining advancement, the State must consider a thorough re-construction of our national system of education. The curriculum of all educational establishments must be brought into line with the requirements of practical life. Comprehension of the State idea (State sociology) must be the school objective, beginning with the first dawn of intelligence in the pupil. We demand development of the gifted children of poor parents, whatever their class or occupation, at the expense of the State.
    21. The State must see to raising the standard of health in the nation by protecting mothers and infants, prohibiting child labour, increasing bodily efficiency by obligatory gymnastics and sports laid down by law, and by extensive support of clubs engaged in the bodily development of the young.
    22. We demand abolition of a paid army and formation of a national army.
    23. We demand legal warfare against conscious political lying and its dissemination in the Press. In order to facilitate creation of a German national Press we demand:
    (a) that all editors of newspapers and their assistants, employing the German language, must be members of the nation;
    (b) that special permission from the State shall be necessary before non-German newspapers may appear. These are not necessarily printed in the German language;
    (c) that non-Germans shall be prohibited by law from participating financially in or influencing German newspapers, and that the penalty for contravention of the law shall be suppression of any such newspaper, and immediate deportation of the non-German concerned in it.

    It must be forbidden to publish papers which do not conduce to the national welfare. We demand legal prosecution of all tendencies in art and literature of a kind likely to disintegrate our life as a nation, and the suppression of institutions which militate against the requirements above-mentioned.

    24. We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the moral feelings of the German race.
    /quote

    now, where do ye see in this platform a promise of an interest-free economy as imagined by Migchels and other groupies?
    Feder, Strasser, Röhm are not here; but show me something from them, or anyone else, that would indicate that they were opposed to interest charged by the national bank if ye wanted to borrow money for a VW ? or, if ye wanted to borrow (existing) money from your neighbour ?

    • Interesting North would post a translation of the 25 points containing only 24. And that point 11. in the original mentions income through usury………….

      Here’s Wiki’s translation of point 11: Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.

      Ok, Wiki is bad, but why trust North??

      • you really are as dumb as a groupie

        Gary North was kind enough to provide the e-text of Sutton’s book(s), which –much to your surprise– contain the party programme

      • you mean why trust a source less moron right? cause that’s you, you have been asked for sources and confronted with the actual sources and yet you maintain silence and idiotic statements that attempt to sidestep the issue…

    • @name789

      Feder’s captivating ideas were about money. At the base of his monetary views was the idea that the state should create and control its money supply through a nationalized central bank rather than have it created by privately owned banks, to whom interest would have to be paid. From this view was derived the conclusion that finance had enslaved the population, by usurping the nation’s control of money.

      Feder’s monetary theories could easily have originated from the work of German monetary theorists such as George Knapp, whose book The State Theory of Money (1905) is still one of the classics in the monetary area. Right on page one, Knapp nails it:

      Money is a creature of the law. A theory of money must therefore deal with legal history.

      Knapp describes the invention of fiat money in these terms: “the most important achievement of economic civilization.” For Knapp, the determination of whether something was money or not was: “our test, that the money is accepted in payments made to the state [i.e., government] offices.”24

      Near the end of that book, Knapp casually mentions how German monetary theorists of his day, and earlier, would study and discuss American monetary theories. Thus the ultimate source of Feder’s viewpoint was probably the American Populist movement of the 1870s and the ideas that movement promoted to establish a permanent greenback system.

      When the National Socialists came to power, Schacht was reappointed head of the Reichsbank, partly to reassure German big business and foreign bankers. Schacht ridiculed Feder’s monetary views:

      Nationalization of banks, abolition of bondage to interest payments and introduction of state Giro ‘Feder’ money, those were the high-sounding phrases of a pressure group which aimed at the overthrow of our money and banking system. To keep this nonsense in check, [I] called a bankers’ council, which made suggestions for tighter supervision and control over the banks. These suggestions were codified in the law of 1934… In the course of several discussions, I succeeded in dissuading Hitler from putting into practice the most foolish and dangerous of the ideas on banking and currency harbored by his party colleagues.25

      Konrad Heiden noted that:

      Industry did not want to put economic life at the mercy of such men as Gregor Strasser or Gottfried Feder, who, marching at the head of small property owners incited to revolution, wanted to hurl a bomb at large-scale wealth. Feder announced that the coming Hitler government would create a new form of treasury bill, to be given as credits to innumerable small businessmen, enabling them to re-employ hundreds of thousands and millions of workers. Would this be inflation? Yes, said Walter Funk, one of the many experts who for the past year or two had advised Hitler – an experienced and well-known finance writer, collaborator of Hjalmar Schacht and, in Hitler’s own eyes, a guarantee that big business would treat him as an equal… Hitler decided to put an end to the public squabble by appointing Göring to [oversee the questions].

      Feder’s faction was then given the four-year plan, to keep them busy.26

      Feder quickly lost the battle with Schacht and the German business establishment. Perhaps he was in over his head monetarily. He wrote of his monetary plan: “Intensive study is required to master the details of this problem… a pamphlet on the subject will shortly appear, which will give our members a full explanation of this most important task…”27 But this was 1934, which means he hadn’t clearly reduced the problem to written form since 1919, over 15 years.

      “When the time comes, we shall deal with these things in further detail…” Feder wrote, but indeed his party was in power, and the time had come.

      Feder was put out to pasture by the National Socialists, serving as an under secretary in the Ministry of Economic Affairs, later to be transferred to commissioner for land settlement and then completely sidetracked as a lecturer at the Technische Hochschule in Berlin. Hitler and the National Socialists came to power on January 30, 1933. Germany’s foreign exchange and gold reserves had dropped from 2.6 billion marks in late 1929, down to 409 million in late 1933 and to only 83 million in late 1934.28 According to classical economic theory, Germany was broke and would have to borrow. But classical economic theory is not very accurate.

      http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/hyperinflation-e.html

  52. >>>>>>> The war economy started in 1943, when it was much too late.
    so, according to you, the war industry and war production did not start in earnest until after Stalingrad ……
    interesting
    ????
    what was the bonded debt of Germany on May 10, 1945 ?
    what was the bonded debt of Germany on August 30, 1939 ?
    what was the bonded debt of Germany on January 2, 1933 ?

    ==========================
    when Gregor Strasser met the friend of Migchels’ hero—
    returning from the war, with his troops, Gregor Strasser came across a spartacist mouth-peice:
    “There he stood, the lousy bum, and chattered and clattered on with his stupid swine grounts that he had learned by heart about the international, the victorious proletariat, the blood-thirsty generals and warmongers, the sweat-squeezing capitalists and stockholders. I sat up there on my nag, which I secretly nudged against the guy so that he was always having to step backward again and again, and I said nothing and slowly collected a whole mouthful of spit. Finally the guy got to the end and sreamed out: ‘Deliver up your weapons! Rip up your flags and insignia! Vote for the soviet of soldiers!’ And by then I was ready: I let him have the whole mouthful of spit, right in the middle of his face; I flooded the bum away. And then I gave the order ‘Battery ….. trot!’ and we marched back into Landshut the same way we had marched out in 1914.”

    —[We can only imagine Strasser’s reaction to some maggot-infested hippie telling him what a bad idea the nation-state concept is]

    • Oh, yes, Nazism’s equation of the State with the Folk is right at the heart of what I hate most about it. Absolutely. I’ll have a good chat with Strasser about that when I meet him in hell.

      Just look at what the Nazi state accomplished for Germany Name.

      I’m not against Nation, although that too is overrated and already a product of long term Money Power centralization. Europe had strong regional identities before the Kings destroyed that. Most people in Europe (and in the States) still have strong feelings for their region.

      The Nation must be governed, but in federalist like structures, with strong local autonomy and preferably regional currencies too.

    • Here’s Wiki on the German war economy:

      The war effort

      The proportion of military spending in the German economy began growing rapidly after 1942, as the Nazi government was forced to dedicate more and more of the country’s economic resources to fight a losing war. Civilian factories were converted to military use and placed under military administration. From mid 1943 on, Germany switched to a full war economy overseen by Albert Speer. By late 1944, almost the entire German economy was dedicated to military production. The result was a dramatic rise in military production, with an increase by 2 to 3 times of vital goods like tanks and aircraft, despite the intensifying Allied air campaign and the loss of territory and factories. Restaurants and other services were closed to focus the German economy on military needs. The increase in production was insufficient to match the Allies in any category of production. Some production was moved underground in an attempt to put it out of reach of Allied bombers.

      From late 1944 on, Allied bombings were destroying German factories and cities at a rapid pace, leading to the final collapse of the German war economy in 1945 (Stunde Null). Food became drastically scarce. Synthetic fuel production dropped by 86% in eight months, explosive output was reduced by 42% and the loss of tank output was 35%.[70] The Allied bombing campaign also tied up valuable manpower, with Albert Speer (Germany’s Minister of Armaments) estimating that in the summer of 1944 between 200,000 and 300,000 men were permanently employed in repairing oil installations and placing oil production underground.[71]

    • By the way, we’re not degenerating into equating anti Usury stuff with Marxism, are we?

  53. Michiel permalink

    You forgot to place a link to the documentary “Banking with Hitler”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IxtM85OGFc

  54. Amalek permalink

    Hitler teamed up with German industrialists, not international bankers. He knew the Soviets were a huge threat and prepped for war. The speed with which western Europe fell to the Germans shows that they were in no way prepared to withstand a Soviet attack (probably by design). If the Germans had not re-militarized and gotten a preemptive strike on the soviets, destroying much of their force projection powers, the communists would have ended up taking all of Europe instead of half of it.

    Hitler set the Jew world order back by decades. He was definitely not a stooge. He was a hero, yet you guys just can’t resist jumping on the bandwagon and badmouthing him.

    • Why doesn’t the author of this “article” respond to your very hard-hitting and direct, and TRUTHFUL, response? The jews who controlled Russia were absolutely intent on taking-over Europe after back-stabbing Germany, and there was absolutely no way that Germany, and EVERYONE ELSE, didn’t know it what was coming because of how the fully offensive preparations were along the Soviet Union’s borders, preparing for a massive push across all of Europe, had Hitler not preemptively attacked.

      People do not like to deal with reality because that would open-the-door to much bigger issues of HOW all of this happened in the first place. I very strongly encourage all of the readers here to read the following essays:

      “The Six Million Myth”

      “The Greatest Deception: zionist-cabal”

      “How the jews Won the West”

      “Masters of Deception” by Zander Fuerza

      “israel Did 911”

      It is past-time for people to face reality because NOTHING IS EVER GOING TO IMPROVE UNLESS AND UNTIL THAT HAPPENS.

      Lindsey

      • I missed this comment Lindsey, I did reply to Amalek below. The notion that Hitler put back the ‘Jew agenda’ with decades is insane. The war gave them everything they wanted. The war itself (ritual slaughter), the destruction of Germany, the EU, the Zionist Entity in Palestine, the Cold War, the end of the British Empire and much more.

        If anything we should be able to agree on Hitler’s legendary failure.

        • And the alternative is what? A USSR controlling the economies of Germany and France, eventually adding all of Europe and Britain if they so wish. How does the cold war look then? What would the fate be of the peoples? Our people today wouldn’t even know about the Jewish enemy. Thanks to Hitler they are forced to keep the conflict in the spot light, because if they let go of the lie his philosophy will spread. Hitler gave us the example and the blueprint and yet the enemy dare not stop giving him constant attention.

          He was a martyr, one of a kind. Show him some respect.

    • Amalek that’s because Anthony is most onviously controlled opposition, he reminds me exact of Alex Jones$tein!

      • Timothy Fitzpatrick permalink

        No disinfo in this article. And since when do white nationalists like yourself get to decide truth as well as its controlled opposition? Sounds like a bunch Kabbalistic Hegelian nonsense to me. Judaism and Nazism are fundamentally the same. How’s that for some truth! Alex Jones isn’t cointelpro because he doesn’t praise Hitler. Jones is cointelpro because he presents the Jew as a beacon of light in this world.

        • I will not trash Anthony’s comment sections anymore – but yes – their are several things in the article that are absolutely untrue – Ill reply above but your assertion that nationalism – “Nazi” was never used by germans and was invented by jewish defense leagues later to draw people away from nationalization of jewish banks stealing our wealth… – your assertion that nationalism is the same as Judaism is much more complex than that – yes jews stole the best things from Germany and try to imitate their success against predatory jews – that’s obvious… perhaps you care to explain this and answer me why new York jews were able to perpetrate this while the world under their thumb – except Germany – did nothing to save 60 million souls from death in jewish communism and jewish gulags?

          Founder of modern judaism – first jewish homeland 1934 – Josef Jughashvili – mass murderer of weltjudentum – Birobidzhan was Stalin’s ZION

          this is the beautiful idea you call “Nazism” because you are uneducated as hell

          the manifest for refraction of the interest servitude of money

          • So tired of your pathetic attempts to make your national socialist fascist out to be saviors of the world. Maybe you would like to explain their racism as expressed eugenics programs promoted and carried out at the Keiser Whilhelm institute through the support of the Rockefeller foundation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_Wilhelm_Institute_of_Anthropology,_Human_Heredity,_and_Eugenics

            If Germany was guilty of a holocaust, then this was the place; many innocent human beings where tortured and murdered with inhumane experimentation from national socialists like Joseph Mengele, all for the purpose of creating a German master race.

            • are you for real? stool samples – thats the experiment – fucking stool samples… moron

              • boys boys, let’s not do this all over again?!

                • no problem – what do you think of this though – this must become standard punishment for anybody that uses the word Nazi and claims it is authentic

                  The Blood Eagle

                  steal the wealth of the people and this is what will happen to you – I like it

              • You lies are really more obnoxious than stools. Some crackpot film is supposed to whitewash eugenics experiementation and racism? you are crazy.

                • tell that to the only guy who can prove he was in Buchenwald or any concentration camp – Paul Rassinier

                  The drama of the European jews
                  The lie of Ulysses
                  The real Eichmann trial

                  • You don’t deny the eugenic experimentation at the Keiser Wilhelm institute funded by the Rockefeller foundation. That’s because you, like all national socialists, are proud of your racist ideology. Your utter contempt for people not of your race is what you have in common with the jews.

                    Instead of being tried for war crimes, these scientists were offered a deal to continue their work for our government(operation paper clip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip ) in black projects, designing biological weapons at Plum Island and other military installations.

                    • what the hell are you talking about – a program that only went on for what 3 years? Take a look in the mirror – eugenics came to Germany from America – America had Eugenics in place for over 40 years and sterilized and exterminated hundreds of thousands – way more than the falsified numbers you can come up with for Germany… some of whom have recently sued the government and are receiving reparations… are you just grabbing any propaganda you can or what?

                      Operation paperclip is another name for the stealing of thousands of patents – whole factories and also the kidnapping of german scientists – I have to say you are a pathetic excuse for an intelligent person – FOR SURE

                      Who put men on the moon? who gave us the jet fighter – who gave us everything we have technology wise – Germans split the atom first but Hitler the great humanitarian refused to use such power for creating death – jewish he called such a concept – jews didn’t mind though – they roasted Hiroshima and Nagasaki for fun even though they had been trying to surrender for how long? months or even years… as far back as 1943 I believe – grow up man you are making me feel bad for you with your utter stupidity and propaganda attemps…

                    • You, of course, completely dismiss the work of Joseph Mengele in your false apologetics. He was not some benign proctologist with a penchant for stools. He was an unethical scientist that conducted medical experiments involving torture and murder such as: placing victims in high altitude chambers, burning people with phosphorous to test pharma drug remedies, forcing victims to remain in icy water for 3 hours or more, forcing victims to drink chemically treated sea water in attempts to make sea water potable, infecting victims with malaria to test effectiveness of drug remedies, subjecting victims to mustard gas, inflicting gangrenous wounds infected with strep. bacteria to test sulfanilamide and other drugs, infecting victims with typhus to test vaccines (90% died), testing the effects of poison on victims by administering it in their food (survivors were murdered to perform autopsies), forced sterilization of inferior races, and genetic testing involving surgical operations and amputations often without anesthesia on hundreds of twin children.

                      There is a whole field of inquiry in medical Bioethics devoted to the question of whether is it just to used the vast data derived from Nazi experiments involving torture and murder. If it didn’t happen why is the medical community arguing over whether or not to use this data: http://opensiuc.lib.siu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1008&context=uhp_theses http://jme.bmj.com/content/17/1/42.full.pdf

                      Even Joseph Mengele’s son is convinced that he committed these atrocities. He believes after meeting him that he believed was doing good as a national socialist. http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=joeseph+menegele&fr=chr-devicevm&type=IEBD

                      We have the British to thank, specifically Francis Galton and Charles Darwin, for the racist genocidal “science” of eugenics. Hilter so admired their work he implemented it in German sciences and government policy. And the Rockefeller foundation did the same in the United States.

                      The German scientists were offered a deal by the US government after the war. Continue to conduct your depraved experiments for the U.S., ostensibly for unethical purposes or face judgment for these same experiments at Nuremburg. Only a repentant or an innocent person would have opted for the latter. Such is not the legacy of the national socialists.

                • PM – what trial produced this “evidence” – where was Mengele convicted by honest proceedings? Where was any of this bullshit story of yours verified? IT WASNT – NOT A WORD OF YOUR PRO JEWISH PLEADINGS WAS EVER VERIFIED ANYWHERE! I believe this is as likely to be true as is the Herman Rosenblat story as it has the same sources… lying kike jews – give this a listen – you are a collaborator to weltjudentum and will receive the same punishment as them – anyone seeking to prolong the peoples misery by defending anything jewish or even repeating bullshit stories told by jews must fear the wrath of the people – I love history – but my main focus unlike everyone else is the study of people – how can one re awaken the inner resistor in everyone – time is running out – people need to forget everything other than the one rule in life – all power stems from violence – you either submit to it or utilize it and free yourself from control – that’s all – anyway – you are an enemy of the people simply by promoting porno peddling jews – you deserve the same treatment as any mass murderer does – supporting jews and the concentration of the necessities of life into their hands is a crime against humanity – PERIOD

            • WINSTON CHURCHILL SAID THIS ON FEB 8 1920 IN NEWSPAPER IN LONDON: “In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing…and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.
              There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews.”
              “Atrocity Propaganda is how we (Brits) won the war!” “We won this war with atrocity propaganda…and now we will start more than ever! We will continue this atrocity propaganda, we will increase it until nobody will accept one good word from the Germans anymore, until everything is destroyed which might have upheld them sympathies in other countries, and until they will be so confused that they don’t know what to do anymore. When this is reached, when they begin to pollute their own nest, and this not reluctantly but with hasty willingness to obey the winners, only then the victory is complete. It will never be definite. The reeducation demands thorough, steadfast nurture like English lawn. Only one moment of inattention and the weed will break through, this ineradicable weed of historic truth.” – Sefton Delmer (JEWISH), former British chief propagandist, commenting after the capitulation in 1945 to the German expert on international law Prof. Grimm.

              “Do not let yourself be disconcerted by the worldwide clamor that will now begin, There will come a day, when all the lies will collapse under their own weight, and truth will again triumph.” Dr. Joseph Goebbels, Berlin, May 1st, 1945.
              The MARXISTS slaughtered 66 million Russian Christians behind their iron curtain and the media hid it. This was by the “homeland” security of theirs….called, the CHEKA. Look it up. The Talmud calls all non YIDS ANIMALs. In Yiddish language……do you know what CHEKA means???????!!!!!!!! ANIMAL SLAUGHTER!!!!!!!! The CHEKA changed names to NKVD, the KGB. NOW DO YOU GET IT?
              “Hitler will have no war (does not want war), but we will force it on him, not this year, but soon.”- Emil Ludwig Cohn in Les Annales, June, 1934 (also quoted in his book “The New Holy Alliance”).
              “We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany.” – David A. Brown, National Chairman, United Jewish Campaign, 1934
              We have exterminated the property owners in Russia.We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America. (The Jew, December 1925,Zinobit)
              youtube: AUSCHWITZ SURVIVORS FORGET THE PLOT
              The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people.” – Le Peuple Juif, February 8, 1919
              “Israel won the war [WW I]; we made it; we thrived on it; we profited from it. It was our supreme revenge on Christianity.” (The Jewish Ambassador from Austria to London, Count Mensdorf, 1918).
              “We corrupt in order to rule.”— Italian Freemason Giuseppe Mazzini who was also like his assoc. Albert Pike, real name Albert Chase…Jew who also created the KKK.
              As Napolean said of the jews “They have a creed that blesses their misdeeds and thievings”
              “The United Nations is nothing but a trap-door to the Red World’s immense concentration camp. We pretty much control the U.N.” Harold Wallace Rosenthal (Jew)
              “Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic Ritual and what is left?” – “Jewish Tribune of New York”, October 28, 1927
              “Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history; grades; official appointments; passwords; and explanations, are Jewish from beginning to end.” – Rabbi Isaac Wise – 1927
              “The Jewish people as a whole will be its own messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy, and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this “New World Order,” the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property, and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands.” – Baruch Levy, in a letter to Karl Marx, published in “La Revue de Paris,” pg. 572 – June 1, 1928
              JEWS KILLED 66 MILLION INNOCENT RUSSIANS DURING “PEACE TIME”. THE REAL YOUNG TURKS WERE ALSO JEWISH MASONIC BOLSHEVIKI’S WHO SLAUGHTERED 3 MILLION ARMENIAN INNOCENTS. DIG THESE DATES AND QUOTES BY JEWS. The Jews CHEKA, their homeland security of the day, did these autracities and it was done on non jews which the Talmud calls non jews animals. CHEKA MEANS IN YIDDISH, “ANIMAL SLAUGHTER”. SEE HOW NASTY THESE FOLKS ARE?
              “Hitler will have no war (does not want war), but we will force it on him, not this year, but soon.” – Emil Ludwig Cohn in Les Annales, June, 1934 (also quoted in his book “The New Holy Alliance”).
              “We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany.” – David A. Brown, National Chairman, United Jewish Campaign, 1934 (quoted in “I Testify Against The Jews” by Robert Edward Edmondson, page 188 and “The Jewish War of Survival” by Arnold Leese, page 52).
              “We want to bring about a deep hatred for the Germans, for German soldiers, sailors, and airmen. We must hate until we win.” – Lord Beaverbrook, quoted in Niemals! by Heinrich Goitsch.
              “There is only one power which really counts. The power of political pressure. We Jews are the most powerful people on earth, because we have this power, and we know how to apply it.” – Vladimir Jabotinsky, Jewish Daily Bulletin, July 27, 1935.
              “Before the end of the year, an economic bloc of England, Russia, France and the U.S.A will be formed to bring the German and Italian economic systems to their knees.” – Paul Dreyfus, “La Vie de Tanger” May 15, 1938.
              On the 3rd of June, 1938, the American Hebrew boasted that they had Jews in the foremost positions of influence in Britain, Russia and France, and that these “three sons of Israel will be sending the Nazi dictator to hell.” – Joseph Trimble, the American Hebrew.
              “Germany is our public enemy number one. It is our object to declare war without mercy against her. One may be sure of this: We will lead that war!” – Bernard Lecache, the president of the “International League Against Racism and Anti-Semitism,” in its newspaper “Droit de Vivre” (Right to Life), 9 November, 1938.
              “The war now proposed is for the purpose of establishing Jewish hegemony throughout the world.” – Brigadier General George Van Horn Mosely, The New York Tribune, March 29, 1939.
              “Hitler killed six million Jews who never existed in gas chambers which nobody ever saw.” — Jewish scholar Roger Dommergue

          • Timothy Fitzpatrick permalink

            You are putting words in my mouth. I didn’t say that nationalism was equivalent to Judaism. I said Nazism, with all of its dualistic-pagan-kabbalistic-occult associations. But now that you mention it, Judaism is nationalistic. Regardless, what did Adolf Shicklgruber and his homosexual Atlantean priesthood do to save Russia from Jewish Bolshevism? Things are complex, but not as complex as white nationalists make them out to be.

            • show one source for any of that – in original german of course… jews are not accepted as they have a conflict…

              Nazism doesn’t exist and never did – the only time the word was ever used by a german was when goebbls made fun of the word… you are utterly worthless – show a source?

    • These ‘national’ industrial backers made an incredible amount of money during the war and after the war all these ‘German’ Transnationals were an integral part of the Money Power’s Transnational Cartel. Just think of Hoechst, Bayer, BASF, poisoning us in the Big Pharma Cartel. The Automobile cartel is part and parcel of the Money Power’s Oil agenda.

      Are we to believe they only teamed up with Rothschild after the war?

      Sure Stalin wanted to attack, after Hitler and the West destroyed each other, there is no doubt about that. The question is, what were Hitler’s designs?! And he wanted war on Russia just as bad as Stalin wanted war on Germany.

  55. Unfortunately; Gottfried Feder’s “Manifesto for the Abolition of Enslavement to Interest on Money” has been linked with Hitler and the Nazis. Originally published in 1919, the book offers an explanation of what is wrong today and more importantly, it provides real economic solutions.

    Feder wrote the book as an easy to understand economic primer for the people of Germany. He was an engineer who clearly understood the fact that interest on the creation of new money simply cannot be sustained and inevitably; it leads to cruel debt slavery and the destruction of any nation state foolish enough to allow the cancer to take root. We naively call this phenomenon “globalization” and miss the point that interest and the international banking cartel are the sinews of the NWO.

    It seems that Hitler and the Nazis had little use of Feder and his ideas not long after they seized power. This book should stand alone and separate from the Nazis. It is a must read for anyone sincerely interested in economics.

    The world would be wise to fire 97% of all economists and then to replace them with engineers who possess mathematical skills and a systems approach while lacking economic indoctrination.

    • Quite right Larry, I just found this very telling quote on Wiki:

      “Feder briefly dominated the NSDAP’s official views on financial politics, but after he became chairman of the party’s economic council in 1931, his anti-capitalist views led to a great decline in financial support from Germany’s major industrialists. Following pressure from Walther Funk, Albert Voegler, Gustav Krupp, Friedrich Flick, Fritz Thyssen, Hjalmar Schacht and Emil Kirdorf, Hitler decided to move the party away from Feder’s economic views; when Hitler became Reichskanzler in 1933, he appointed Feder as under-secretary at the ministry of economics in July. This disappointed Feder, who had hoped for a much higher position.”

      Feder was just not acceptable to Hitler’s backers and he got sidelined quickly after his ideas got Hitler to power.

      • Amalek permalink

        Hitler was above all a politician. He could not risk alienating the industrialists and made concessions to stay in their good graces. He was not omniscient and could not account for everything that would take place over the years. And even though he was given free reign, he still needed to maintain his standing with other influential people and was not all powerful.

        You guys give too much credit to the NWO and seem to believe that they have full power over world events instead of just pushing influence over long periods of time.

        • The Money Power always control both sides of the conflict Amalek. In this case too. They were not against Hitler, to say the very least. They wanted the war and so did Hitler. The war gave them everything they ever wanted, you can see the list in the afterthought. The idea that Hitler put their agenda back by decades is one of the more blatant examples of wishful thinking I’ve come across lately.

          Hitler was not the demon war propaganda made of him. Nor were his antagonists the saints they were made. But the facts speak for themselves: he sidelined Feder and his anti usury activism. The banks, controlled by the usual suspects, made a fortune out of the war and loyally cooperated with financing it.

          The Hunger Plan speaks for itself. God only knows why it is ignored by both revisionists and the mainstream.

          • Hitler never wanted any WAR:

            The attempts repeatedly made by Adolf Hitler to induce the governments of other states to collaborate with him in a reconstruction of Europe resemble an ever-recurring pattern in his conduct since the commencement of his labors for the German Reich. But these attempts were wrecked every time by reason of the fact that nowhere was there any willingness to give them due consideration, because the evil spirit of the Great War still prevailed everywhere, because in London and Paris and in the capitals of the Western Powers’ vassal states there was only one fixed intention: to perpetuate the power of Versailles.

            A rapid glance at the most important events will furnish incontrovertible proof for this statement.

            snip

            Then it was that Adolf Hitler for the first time made his appeal to the common sense of the other powers. On May 17, 1933, a few months after his appointment to the office of Reichskanzler, he delivered a speech in the German Reichstag, from which we extract the following passages:

            “Germany will be perfectly ready to disband her entire military establishment and destroy the small amount of arms remaining to her, if the neighboring countries will do the same thing with equal thoroughness.

            … Germany is entirely ready to renounce aggressive weapons of every sort if the armed nations, on their part, will destroy their aggressive weapons within a specified period, and if their use is forbidden by an international convention.

            … Germany is at all times prepared to renounce offensive weapons if the rest of the world does the same. Germany is prepared to agree to any solemn pact of non-aggression because she does not think of attacking anybody but only of acquiring security.”

            No answer was received.

            .
            http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/nothanks/wwr00.html

            • Politicians, especially police state dictators, say many things that shouldn’t be taken at face value. This could have been an attempt to deceive or a ploy to justify his ambitions for aggression, knowing that no nation would accept those terms.

      • Anthony, since wiki is so accurate what are the nmes of all of feder’s works? be prepared to be proved very gullible, wiki has no info that is complete or reliable

    • das manifest zur brechung der zinsknechtshaft des geldes – in correct English is – The Manifest Refraction of Interest Servitude to Money Gottfried Feder 1919 and in proper English accurately translated here

      the manifest for refraction of the interest servitude of money

    • To Larry: You commented: “The world would be wise to fire 97% of all economists and then to replace them with engineers who possess mathematical skills and a systems approach while lacking economic indoctrination.”

      As a former electronics design engineer, I wholly agree. Practical engineering has much to do with simplifying and distilling the design down to what is functional and robust. The greatest threat to functional design in any “system” is the tendency to create elaborate subsystems that initially impress other engineers, yet cause functional failures upon ultimate implementation.

      Refer to all previous political, economic, and spiritual “systems” as proof of the ultimate error.

      Keeping it simple and elegant is the mark of true genius. Some refer to it as the “KISS” method. (Keep It Simple/Stupid) I digress…

  56. interest is not the problem, constant borrowing is the problem

    Ye invented this Hitler and this National Socialist Germany, which never existed; this Hitler and Germany which ye imagined as some free-money commune; and now (in true Bill Still fashion, he is training you well in charlatanry) present yourself as a discoverer of some fake quotes.
    People who were not afraid to do more than just click the mouse –especially before there was a mouse– have known from day one that NS Germany was not a free money commune.

    If in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 6% interest-bearing Federal Reserve notes had been used to facilitate the construction and rebuilding of roads, bridges, Meat Markets, Oil Refinaries, or any other installations from which revenue may reasonably be expected –and at the same time the number of government employees, the size of government, the number of people on various froms of welfare had been constantly reduced– in 2013 the United States would have full employment and the 6% interest easily repaid.
    (of course, this is not what happened: the Fed used sovereign credit and re-flated Wall street and the pension funds)

    NS Germany did all this, it put the Bank and the financial structure to good use, and in short order economy was on the roll, people were back to work and earned a living –so much so that foreign workers had to be invited in (not during the war, but in the peace years)…..
    Gregor Strasser would have spit in the face of present day groupies and mutual hippies; and Silvio Gesell or anyone suggesting drunken sailor ideas, would have been promptly put into a labour camp, with Strasser’s approval

    http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/nsdap/feder.htm
    http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/nsdap/spirit.htm
    http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/nsdap/strasser.htm

    Neither Feder nor Strasser (or anyone else) suggested that if you did not want to wait and save up, and borrowed money to instantly satisfy your desire, that this borrowed money should be interest free; only the groupies came up with this, and blamed it on the National Socialists.

    a Bank of the United States is highly necessary and proper to the establishment and maintenance of a sound currency, and for the cheap and safe collection, keeping, and disbursing of the public revenue. —Abraham Lincoln

    The opposite of “legal tender” is lawful money. According to Scripture, lawful money has intrinsic value, like gold, silver, corn, wheat, honey, beans, oil.

    • Hitler, like many before and after him, showed only one thing: that money was scarce and that solving that would get the economy back on track. That’s a no brainer Name.

      Of course debt is a bond, it’s not ‘free’: it must be repaid. The lender is the master of the borrower.

      Don’t start about the FED. Had they used that money to invest in the economy at 0,75% while returning any ‘profit’ (without paying 6% dividends to its shareholders, that is) to the Treasury (as they do), nobody would have heard me. The economy would have been doing fine.

      The question is, and you know this well: who pays for the interest and who gets it. We both know the answer to this Name.

  57. >>>>> I read online, doesn’t it count

    The point, as you know, is that clicking the mouse is the utmost of what you are willing (and able) to do; if it required more than clicking the mouse, not one of ye would show any interest in currency deformation

    If people like me did not provide content, you (and your kind) would have stayed with “Doom” and “Nuke Duke”;
    then ye get upset because we content-providers know more than ye do;
    //* You would never have gone to a book-seller, buy “New World Order” by William Still to see what is in it…… just as you would never look for books, papers, to read up on the NS economic system;

    You and other groupies regularly malign and besmirch Gary North for selflessly trying to warn prospective victims and trying to wake up the sheeple around Ellen Brown, and for pointing out that gold and silver are God-ordained currencies on Earth;
    yet if Gary North had not provided the electronic text of Sutton’s books, ye would never have known what is in those books, (of course, you failed to put your thank you note next to the link)

    a third Bank of the United States is highly necessary and proper to the establishment and maintenance of a sound currency, and for the cheap and safe collection, keeping, and disbursing of the public revenue. —Abraham Lincoln

    The opposite of “legal tender” is lawful money. According to Scripture, lawful money has intrinsic value, like gold, silver, corn, wheat, honey, beans, oil.

    Ingrid Rimland or Antony Sutton are not primary sources (of course, you would not know what a primary source is if your tripped over it); and even if you tripped over a primary source, you would run away in mortal fear

    • hahahaha Name 🙂 well, if it is any comfort to you, I HAVE read Mein Kampf! I think that’s a primary source, not?

      Why don’t you read some primary sources on economics too? You might learn something………..you need it, hahahahahaha

      • dear oh dear; again and again, you are proving my point about groupies (ye really have no concept)

        No, beloved, the Meinkampf is NOT a primary source;

        a primary source would be d o c u m e n t s of the m i n i s t r y of f i n a n c e, d o c u m e n t s of the R e i c h b a n k, d o c u m e n t s of p a r l i a m e n t ……..

        =====
        so where did you get the idea that Feder or Strasser susbscribed the concept of ye drug-induced ones ?

        >>>>>the Papiermark had been inflated into oblivion
        yes, but in your other article you recommend the use of the exact same hyper velocity, demurring paper notes……

        • What the hell? You are now going to deny Feder was vehemently against interest?

          Wiki (I should have seen this earlier, would have looked good in the article)
          “Feder briefly dominated the NSDAP’s official views on financial politics, but after he became chairman of the party’s economic council in 1931, his anti-capitalist views led to a great decline in financial support from Germany’s major industrialists. Following pressure from Walther Funk, Albert Voegler, Gustav Krupp, Friedrich Flick, Fritz Thyssen, Hjalmar Schacht and Emil Kirdorf, Hitler decided to move the party away from Feder’s economic views; when Hitler became Reichskanzler in 1933, he appointed Feder as under-secretary at the ministry of economics in July. This disappointed Feder, who had hoped for a much higher position.”

          Feder was always talking about ‘brechung der Zinnsknechtschaft’. He wanted a usury free economy Name, there is no doubt about that.

        • Btw, for a guy who is so full of the Old Testament and presumably an anti banker man, from where comes your infatuation with this Usury business anyway?

          American Populists were always about volume, I’ll grant that. That was their biggest mistake. Volume is very, very important, but money scarcity is actually a function of Usury. without usury an economy will ultimately clear (not before a lot of pain though) with a small money supply. It’s the constant drain through Usury that creates the ongoing deflationary pressures and money scarcity.

          Of course volume is manipulated in other ways (racketeering) too, but this is a crucial issue and the Populists simply missed it.

        • Demurrage is NOT inflation Name, you know that.

  58. Johnycomelately permalink

    Just a question on the mechanism of the MEFO, did the bill of exchange have a dollar value and how was the chain of holders managed, did the last holder (the banks) get paid by the government in dollars?

    Under this system how was labour payed? I’m just curious as both my grand parents were used as forced slave labour very early on in the conflict and I’m wondering if the MEFO mechanism was responsible for the unprecedented levels of slave labour used by the Nazis.

    The usual explanation of a lack of workers doesn’t make sense as the Axis population, if you include their allies (Italy, Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria) and occupied territories (France, Netherlands, Belgium etc.) was actually quite large.

    If the MEFOs didn’t circulate in the economy at the individual level was it responsible for the lack of cash reserves for corporations and hence the need for forced slave labour?

    • The MEFO bills’ value was in Reichsmark and there was a fixed exchange rate for Reichsmark and the Dollar.

      Anybody converting MEFO’s would receive Reichsmark, not Dollars.

      Labor was payed with the regular currency Reichsmark, only businesses, banks, the Reichsbank and MEFO itself used MEFO bills.

      However, the military, concentration camps and the occupied territories used special versions of Reichsmark.

      I’m not sure what drove slave labor. I think it only got really big when the war progressed. In 1943 Albert Speer was ordered to reform the economy to a total war footing.

      Mind you: the Axis powers would have had labor shortages, since they had many men in the military and associated services. The occupied territories basically minded their own business.

      I know a little bit about the ‘arbeitseinsatz’ in Holland: German corporations did look for dutch workers in 1941, there were about 100k dutch workers working for Germany at the time. As of 1942 they started recruiting in earnest and it became more and more forced. In 1944 they started razzia’s to get the workers to Germany. All in all they seemed to have used about 7,5 million workers from the occupied territories.

      • Johnycomelately permalink

        Thanks for the reply, your fantastic post finally puts to rest ‘Hitler’s economic miracle’ and his supposed interest free money that is spouted so often by conspiracists.

        • how is that? I have posted the works that describe exactly how it was done and Anthony here is completely source less…

  59. Kevin Moore permalink

    Adolf Hitler The greatest story Never told (Full 6 hours Documentary)
    .

    • Dublinsmick permalink

      Kevin Moore, that is a fantastic documentary and needs to go viral. Thanks

  60. Dublinsmick permalink

    Link to the above article

    http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2013/09/hitler-just-another-friend-of-bankers.html

    There is a good book by Greg Hallett from New Zealand called “Hitler Was A British Agent”. He says they burned his house down over it.

    http://greghallett.com/

    Greg is interviewed by Jim Fetzer of Veteran’s Today

    http://www.theworldoftruth.net/HallettReport/

  61. Al Fontaine permalink

    Mr. Anthony Migchels,

    A huge thank you very much for this wonderful article (arrived here through Dr. Henry Makow – thanks Henry !)

    I must confess that every time I try to grasp this very subject I wind up with even more questions than answers, and here you introduced me to a lot of new and interesting data.

    Now, please allow me two questions:

    1) It seems to me that your essay goes against what Kerry Bolton wrote on pp. 103/115 of “The Banking Swindle”, a book you have already reviewed. Am I right in my assessment ?

    2) Have you read the article about the funding of the NSDAP written by Veronica Kuzniar Clark in…

    http://inconvenienthistory.com/archive/2011/volume_3/number_3/demystification_of_the_birth_of_the_nsdap.php

    Or the book whose core contents is the work of Dr. Heinrich Pudor (1936), which she (Veronica) edited and commented under the title of “The Hyenas of High Finance” ?

    Then again, thank you very much Mr. Migchels.

    • Hi Al,

      thanks!

      1) No, Bolton writes the German economy was restarted with ‘sovereign credit’ and although this is a bit of a misnomer, one could construe the MEFO bills to be that. They did restart the economy and they were the key to Nazi economic success. However, they were ‘extra’, in the sense that Schacht relied primarily on the Reichsmark and credit in Reichsmark. However, Reichsmark was too scarce and the MEFO was circulated on top of them. Credit in Reichsmark was usurious, hence the notion of massive war profiteering by the banks that provided it. MEFO was interest-free, but they came with a discount, which would also have been lucrative to the banks.

      2)Yes, I think I’ve seen Clark’s list, but the article is not about funding, but how the German economy was run.

  62. Kevin Moore permalink

    I agree with Mr Hitler…..
    .

    Hitler thoughts as I read them from Mein Kampf Ch. 10 –
    .
    “…..In proportion to the extent that commerce assumed definite control of the State, money became more and more of a god whom all had to serve and bow down to. Heavenly Gods became more and more old fashioned and were laid away in the corners to make room for the worship of Mammon. And thus began a period of utter degeneration which became specially pernicious because it set in at a time when the nation was more than ever in need of an exalted idea, for a critical hour was threatening…..”
    .
    “….His Majesty, the Kaiser, made a mistake when he raised representatives of the new finance capital to the ranks of the nobility….”
    .
    “…The first and most fatal result brought about in this way was the weakening of the agricultural classes, whose decline was proportionate to the increase to the proletariat of the urban areas, until finally the equalibrium was completely upset….”
    .
    “…………..The cure of a sickness can only be achieved if its cause is known, and the same is true of curing political evils. To be sure, the outward form of a sickness, its symptom which strikes the eye, is easier to see and discover than the inner cause. And this is the reason why so many people never go beyond the recognition of external effects and even confuse them with the cause, attempting, indeed, to deny the existence of the latter. Thus most of us primarily see the German collapse only in the general economic misery and the consequences arising therefrom. Nearly every one of us must personally suffer these-a cogent ground for every individual to understand the catastrophe. Much less does the great mass see the collapse in its political, cultural, ethical, and moral aspect. In this the feeling and understanding of many fail completely……………

    .
    Money is Not Needed with Energy Abundance
    .
    April 13, 2012 | Filed under: Economy,News,Poverty | Posted by: True Activist
    .
    In order to understand the very basis of money, it is best to contemplate how it developed in the first place.
    .
    Once society developed past the clan stage, when barter, trade and so forth arose, it became the practice to place value on the products of human energy expended. If one used one’s energy to build a bow, go out hunting, kill an animal, process the carcass, and transport the meat back to be traded or bartered for, this gave that meat value. The bow components were free, as was the animal. The same was true for the farmer, who expended meaningful energy in tilling, sowing, tending, harvesting, and, if need be, transporting what that farmer produced. The produce had value. Even the gatherer expended meaningful energy in seeking things to gather, then transporting the find back to be used as “money” for other things. The miner expended the meaningful energy to find the (free) ore, hew it out of the earth, and transport it………..”

    • Kevin Moore permalink

      From Historian David Irving’s work “Hitlers War” –
      .
      http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Hitler/1977/html_chapter/13.html
      .
      Hitler’s outspoken philosophy in July 1943 was this : “In the end man lives from the soil, and the soil is a goblet passing from lip to lip, which Providence allows to linger longest with the nation that fights for it.”

      • Kevin Moore permalink

        Addendum,

        “No improvement can be brought about until it is understood that economics play only a second or third role, while the main part is played by political, moral and racial factors. Only when this is understood will it be possible to understand the causes of the present evils and consequently the ways and means of remedying them”
        .

    • I think one of the more important lessons in life is to distinguish between words and actions……….especially with politicians.

  63. afterthought7

    quote
    AFTER THE war Winston Churchill wished to quote from a letter written to him by Chancellor Heinrich Brüning, then residing at Oxford, England, on August 28. 1937, about the big industrialists who had supported the Nazis before and after their accession to power.

    Brüning was reluctant to provide any ammunition that might be used against his fellow Germans in “the so-called war crimes trials.” He felt [he wrote] that Friedrich Flick and the IG Farben company were blameless, having been forced to make their contributions after the Nazis came to power; and added,
    “I did not and do not even today, for understandable reasons, wish to reveal that from October 1928 the two largest regular contributors to the Nazi Party were the general managers of two of the largest Berlin banks, both of Jewish faith, and one of them the leader of Zionism in Germany.”
    /quote
    http://www.fpp.co.uk/History/General/BrueningMS.html

    http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Hitler/1977/index.html

    Merchants of Death, 1934:–
    http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/merchants/merchant_01.html

    Hitler has now become the symbol of the return of German militarism . Even before he managed to obtain supreme power there was speculation as to his financial backers . Obviously they included German industrialists fearful of socialism, communism, and the labor unions, nationalists smarting under the “insults” of the Versailles treaty, and a host of other discontented folk . But on the list of these contributors supplying funds to the Hitler movement were the names of two capitalists—Von Arthaber and Von Duschnitz—directors of Skoda, the great armament firm of Germany’s neighbor and enemy, Czechoslovakia .

    Interlocking directorates are a familiar phenomenon in the United States . The real controller of industries is frequently found in the most unexpected places . In Europe the same system prevails . And so it appears that Messrs. Von Arthaber and Von Duschnitz represent a firm which is controlled by still another firm . The head of this holding company is neither German nor Czech . He is a French citizen, M. Eugene Schneider, president of the Schneider-Creusot Company which for a century has dominated the French arms industry and which through its subsidiaries now controls most of the important arms factories in Central Europe . Some of Hitler’s financial support, then, was derived from a company owned by a leading French industrialist and arms maker .2

    Arms merchants also own newspapers and mold public opinion . M. Schneider is more than just president of Creusot . He is the moving spirit of another great combine, the Comité des Forges . This French steel trust through one of its officers has controlling shares in the Paris newspaper Le Temps, the counterpart of The New York Times, and the Journal des Débats, which corresponds to the New York Herald Tribune . These two powerful papers constantly warn their readers of the “danger of disarmament” and of the menace of Germany . Thus M. Schneider is in a position to pull two strings, one linked to Hitler and German militarism, the other tied to the French press and French militarism .

  64. Very interesting discussion. Thanks.

  65. afterthought3
    There is no Hitler; in 1938 Stalin takes Spain……
    or
    Hitler does not attack Russia; in August 1941 Stalin unleashes 12million men, 20,000 aeroplanes, 25,000 tanks……

    afterthought4
    there is nothing in “your” article (most of it is copy&paste) which required more than clicking a mouse

    if it is really a new discovery for you, your study of the subject was nothing but a gaping hole; it is very commonly known that the socialist part (Gregor Strasser, Ernst Röhm) of the national socialist movement was cut off during the night of long knives; it is also known that before he came to power, Hitler made an agreement with large capitalists of Germany

    Because of people like Ellen Brown you fantacized about some Hitler and German economy which never existed –just as you fantacised about a mythological Lincoln– and now you are rudely awakening (the fear of library and your book-peddling mentors did this to you)

    when they were still just a large party in the German parliament, Strasser and cohorts introduced a bill to confiscate some ill-gotten gains; when large capitalists, who would have been on the receiving end, heard of it, they contacted Hitler; Hitler ordered the Party to withdraw the bill; The Communists liked the bill, they re-introduced it, word-for-word; Hitler ordered the Party to vote against the exact-same bill…….

    afterthought5
    the war economy did not start until after 1937
    in 1933 the Bank of England extended a large loan to Germany

    • Nobody knows how it would have gone without Hitler Name. Stalin was intending to take Europe after Hitler, France and the UK would have battled it out. It’s unclear whether he would have amassed that army without a war on the Western front.

      I think the axis powers started supporting Franco before Stalin joined the battle.

      But it’s certainly true the Soviets would at some point have become a threat to Europe, had Germany not rearmed.

      Of course I know of the night of the long knives, killing the ‘left’ of nazism and it’s quite likely Feder’s removal was part of this. I forgot to put in this link, it was in my notes for the article.

      The war economy did not start in 1937, it started in 1943, when it was much too late. But Hitler started rearmament right after he came to power (he remilitarized the Rhineland in 1935, even thought the Wehrmacht would probably would not yet have been able to respond to a French reaction) and the economy was aimed mainly at building an arsenal.

      I’m not anti (or pro) Hitler, I’m just reporting the facts as I understand them today. I was always curious about the Nazi economy, but only recently I found the right info.

      I don’t think Ellen Brown was wrong, by the way. She wrote the economy was financed with ‘labor certificates’, which were the name of the MEFO’s predecessors. She never claimed the economy was interest free, she claimed it was reinflated by creating national ‘money’ and while not entirely accurate, she was pretty much on target.

      By the way: I read books on-line, I don’t have money to buy them. Does that count?

      • By the way: neo-nazi’s vehemently deny capitalist financing of Hitler and while they’re wrong they have successfully debunked many claims. There is also a serious difference between the industrial and financial class. Nobody denies that the German industrialists supported Hitler, but there IS serious discussion about Money Power involvement. I think this article makes the case that Schacht was their man and it provides the goodies to make this case from a financial/monetary point of view, not just his credentials.

        • Yes; i was told to leave some supremacists forums for my Adolf but a tool of the international money power observation

        • so name the funders of hitler already instead of incessantly being source less and side stepping all issues

  66. what happened to Ellen Brown’s ode to Hitler’s system ?

    • What about Hank Paulson’s ode to private banker profiteering from the Deutsch hyperinflationary crash?

      • a privately-owned Bank of the United States is highly necessary and proper to the establishment and maintenance of a sound currency, and for the cheap and safe collection, keeping, and disbursing of the public revenue —Abraham Lincoln

        Had Henry Paulson written anything on the hyper velocity money printed during the Inflation (which type of currency Migchels favours muchly), it would have been natural for him; but what Migchels is saying indirectly, because he is not manly enough to say directly, that Brown lied about Hitler, too. (of course, this zoomed miles over your head)

        🙂

        • Yeah, you’re lies are too big to fathom. Just like Hank’s banks are too big to fail & jail.

          I through correcting you because it only encourages you to bs more. It’s like moral hazard involved in permitting bailouts for usury and derivative speculation.

  67. MEFO bills were a master piece of state finance, without a doubt. Problem is they were mainly used for economic recovery of the peace economy. Wartime budgets and planning did not start until the famous Goebbels speech calling for “Total War” in 1943. Germany did not realize how deep they were in the war situation until too late. What were they thinking? Who were they talking to?

    • @rduanewilling

      “We must be sure not only to exterminate
      all German merchant companies
      and German enterprises in all nations,

      but also to be sure that we bring these
      trade connections into our own control.”

      Sir Edward Carson,(1854-1935),
      Member of the British War Cabinet
      In Portsmouth on December 28, 1917.

      Even tho Churchill was a zion lover he was perscient about much of what was the root fo the great change that was about to move all of Europe into a higher living standard.
      Not sayin he would want to stop that ( as I do suspect he would want to keep the thrall class in near poverty to keep them malleable) but he saw how the German rise to power was being SUPPORTED by the German Merchant Class and the honorable trade with other nations.

      AH saw the need for the NSDAP and capital to work together and was willing to compromise and develop programs to aid Germany to grow economically stable again.
      The NSDAP was friendly to all capital that kept their books open and at least publicaly supported the NSDAP programs of reconstruction and job creation.
      The combination of socialism and capitalism worked to restructure Germany and would work in any nation that chose to implement such a combo ti fit the culture and demographics of that nation.

      Such is the organic beauty of NS.

  68. I think the easiest way to explain what happened under Hitler’s rule is like this…. 😉

    http://lordsofthedrinks.wordpress.com/2013/08/13/drunk-history-europe-under-nazi-germany-part-i/

  69. Nixon Scraypes permalink

    At last! The amount of contradictory information on this subject is collosal.For someone with no economic background or sense it’s a nighymare. Hitler got rid of usury/Wall St backed Hitler blah blah Well done Anthony now I can actually think about it.Thank you very much,you’re the man!

  70. Without his signature moustachio, Hitler kinda looks like Justin Bieber. I think a fatuous smile would make it a perfect match.

    Thanks for dispelling the myth that public banking caused Nazi fascism.

  71. Mark R. Elsis | Lovearth.net permalink

    I’ve been unable to find any data on real interest rates during the Nazi era.

  72. When WW II started, Stalin had 24,000 tanks and 30,000 artillery pieces. Germany would have been attacked even if Hitler had never been born and there were no Nazis. Hitler never made adequate preparations for a war against Stalin let alone England and France. His greatest mistakes:

    1) Not creating a true non-interest bearing currency and repealing fractional reserve banking. Schacht was proven to be a traitor during the war.

    2) Hitler’s tanks were inadequate to strike Russia as they needed thicker walls to survive incoming rounds and diesel engines for harsh winters. He could have taken Moscow if he had better tanks and invaded earlier in the year.

    3) He was delayed in attacking Russia because Mussolini diverted him into Yugoslavia, Greece and North Africa. He should have delayed Italy’s entry into the war by announcing war goals against imperialism and fractional reserve banking. Italy would think twice before jeopardizing their Libyan colony. Hitler would have attracted more support from around the world.

    4) Hitler took a few million prisoners in the early days of the Russian invasion. He had not prepared a new government with a new non-interest bearing currency and land reform for the Ukraine.

    5) Hitler had no plan to knock out England. He had 60 sub-sonic jets. He should have had 120. If they had fired 500 pound missiles instead of dropping 1,000 pound bombs, those 120 jets could have taken out the British Navy and forced a negotiated peace. Great Britain would have been incapable of competing economically with Germany after the war.

    • Cheimison permalink

      People who are against interest on money and mentally deranged faggots and not worth paying attention to. Go get AIDS, commie queers.

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